A world without the Klitschkos - who would be great?

When you add in Pulev, Juan Carlos Gomez, Ibragimov, Solis, Sanders and then some of the young bucks who might yet do something like Chisora, Fury, Ustinov, Helenius, Stiverne, Joshua, Wilder, Glazkov, Scott, Perez and Jennings it really does underline the point of just how much great depth the current era has. All those names without even mentioning the CW's who will move up in the time. Stunning.

 

Get off the forum you are a hater-I would hope someone like the Klitschko's could meet you the ring
You up for that?
Such hatred. It's only fair. Yes Lennox won the fight, but would have lost the rematch. Both were great fighters that night.

 

Povetkin won consistently against high level opponents amateur and professional boxing. So most likely consistently winning against the other competitors would anoint Povetkin as great.

Since Povetkin has a rock solid jaw and certain Eastside posters would not have that to criticize they would say he couldn't crack an egg with his punching power

 

That's good to hear, my friend. I am glad to see you are well and contributing some good thoughts to this forum.

So part of what you're saying is that the current heavyweight era would be considered a much better one if more of the top guys fought each other? So a champion is made greater by the competition he has been forced to take on?

But also that the era is called weak because the Klits are so dominant? I can see that. If, for example, Wlad won most of his fights 6-4 and emerged with a broken nose and blood all over him, people would say, "Wow, what a great fight! These were two great fighters giving it their all! What a great era!"

But do you also think it's not just the dominance, but also because his style doesn't interest anybody?

 

In a world without the Klitchko's the division appearance improves dramatically. Byrd had a fine resume, Haye is talented with both speed and power. Chagaev and Povetkin are skilled compact warriors for HW's. I think those four out of the above listed probably rise to the top in a nice round robin of good fights. Adamek is tough as is thompson. Not to mention personality dictates alot and since the Klitchko's don't engage in media outbursts etc it only lends to more ppl finding them boring. Fact is they are dominant as dominant as the division has ever seen. Perception skewers many people's judgement on them but the divison would probably be viewed as far better than it is if they were not in the picture.

 

Klitschkos stand out because they are so much better than all the other heavyweights. Without them, some would finally stand out, but not as long as the Klitschkos........................

 

this blows that whole idea out of the water that the Klitscko/Eastern European era was solely responsible for the decline of American dominance.

Had the Klitskchos not existed, there is a not a single fighter on that list that would have been mentioned in the same breath as Ali, Holmes, Tyson etc

Which sums up this era. It is a poor era. All the above would have just been belt holders. Byrd may have been a bit more sucessful than the rest. But really, Byrd is nothing special either.

And by the way, who the **** is 'David Toney'?

 

Pretty well put, but even with Byrd/Haye/Chag and Povetkin at the top, the boxing world and public would still have been crying out for a single saviour. But that scenario you stated would have been very interesting, espeically if Haye decided to pull his finger out

 

it would not be difficult to pick two of the fighters you listed and through tag teaming them, and consistently picking opponents worse than a 37 year old unfit nevercontender retiree, keeping the titles between them.

its unlikely either would get destroyed by a 37 year old unfit retiree nevercontender, but if it happened, then the other tag teamer could step in and pick up the pieces.

 

It's not up to the Klitsckos to make the heavyweight divison better it's up to the rest to rise to the challenge.

But I agree alot better matchups would happen since then people would have a chance at winning again.