AA mystifies me

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  1. newby johnson

    newby johnson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How does a guy who fights 9 rounds with a broken jaw, or however many rounds, come into his fight with Froch scared and never tries to win the fight?

    This fight he wasn't scared but the will was lacking again. First few rounds he fights then he takes a vacation then he fights again.

    How does someone who has the will to fight on with a broken face not have the will to win fights every moment of every round?
     
  2. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Its not that he's scared but more so flustered because he only has 1 style of fighting ..Blame his corner ..I see the same thing with Pavlik ..Once they can't intimidate an opponenet with their power they have no back up plan ..No real boxing to fall back on if their bread and butter fails ..
     
  3. pehun

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    Maybe his fight against Taylor was the everest of his motivation. Once he knocked him out, he lost the will to win.
     
  4. Blood Green

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    He was fighting Andre Ward last night, not Edison Miranda.
     
  5. KillerDeluxe

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    Abraham just lost his self belief. He fell in love with his power, had a poor corner(Wegner will also lose Huck this year, bank on it.) He has real good power, a great chin but he just doesn't show any motivation or interest anymore in boxing. I think retirement is his next choice, cause Arthur as of right now, sadly, is just a Euro level SMW.
     
  6. taobum70

    taobum70 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes and the point isn't whether he could have beaten Ward. Why isn't he trying anymore? He was trying against Dirrell, hit a lot of air, kept trying. If the fould hadn't happened, he would have either Ko'd Dirrell or lost swinging away until the last moment. Against Froch and Ward he never showed an urgency to win.
     
  7. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think 168 is too much for him, he gets stopped in his tracks by Dirrell's Jab, and Froch's Jab has him flying back.

    At Middleweight he wouldnt be pushed back that badly, but at 168 he probably lacks the strength.
     
  8. PH|LLA

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    He looked like he was trying an extremely hard. He just isn't very good. However, alot of people seem to think highly of him like "What was wrong with AA?" when clearly his opponents have alot to do with it. He tried to come hard & Ward proceeded to break him with good bodywork. AA just isn't very good.
     
  10. PH|LLA

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    I'll reference you back to a fight at MW between AA and Lujan Simon in early 2009

    Simon implemented a game-plan focusing on body shots and AA was backing off a shitload. Gone was his supposedly indomitable will. Abraham won that fight but was very lackluster.

    All Froch had to do was keep Abraham and bay with his powerful jab and bust up his midsection from time to time. Ward hurt Abraham with some stiff jabs to the body several times throughout the fight.

    Kill the body, kill the will.
     
  11. Diggersan

    Diggersan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lack of stamina man, he just doesn't have it to go a full 12 rounds
     
  12. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When he gets frustrated you kind see his head drop, he was sulking from the 4th round on against Ward. he doesnt have the talent for a plan b and he is just not a bully at 168.

    A Pavlik fight could be interesting, but other that i dont know what else is out there for him.
     
  13. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    aa made to much money to fast and lost his hunger. and he still can't cope with his first loss to dirrell. every fighter reacts different after a loss. abraham is a guy who fights with confidence. dirrell took the first part of it and froch took everything what was left. he made 10 mil in 4 or 5 years. so it's more difficult to fight his whole heart out because you know, even if you lose everything will be good. some guys get soft with money
     
  14. newby johnson

    newby johnson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, the way he fights is part of the problem, there is certainly a technical problem, but also there was a CLEAR lack of will to win.

    Look at rounds 11 and 12 when he had moments and hit Ward with some shots. Imagine if he fought that way consistently throughout the fight. Not saying he necersarily would have won (possible), but he would have been doing his damndest.

    When Corrales stopped Castillo in the final seconds how many reasons did he have to say "it can't be done" or "it's too late" or any other number of things, and none of us would have said he didn't try, right? But he went beyond.

    Abe tried one thing, didn't work and he checked out.


    Man, reading this post was strange, because it's so rare that someone actually gets the point or doesn't misinterpret what happened.
     
  15. newby johnson

    newby johnson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Interesting, thanks.