AA mystifies me

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  1. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My guess is that AA has a fragile psyche. The loss to Dirrell completely demoralized him. He no longer believes in himself. He should have jabbed Ward relentlessly all night long. The jab was working, and he has the reach to make it an important weapon at SMW. But he closed-up shop after three rounds or so. Bizarre.
     
  2. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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    I find Abraham unwatchable at this point. He's that horrific.
     
  3. Tyler-Durden

    Tyler-Durden Boxing Junkie banned

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    That's what i think too :/
    Take his plane and 2 Ferraris off and he will be hungry again :yep
     
  4. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    See there is a big diffrence ,lets take Mosley and Abraham and compare who willed themself more ..AA could have been exahusted ,dead tired thats why he kept slumping over in his corner but his will unlike Mosley's kept him at least tyring ,no matter who you are when your drained nothing works right the diffrence is he charged forward ...Mosley charged backwards ..

    AA could have been out of breath in some of those late rds but he kept coming forward the issue was training ..Which I still feel his corner has to go ..Him winging punches was a clear sign of him just fighting on instinct not technique had he been drilled on what to do outside of using just power he could have been more successful.
     
  5. PhonyGamboa

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    He is a just a wild idiot animal. He is mentally very dumb. While watching this fight with some fellas, we started a drinking game where everytime, Abraham would do the same 1-2 jab and then overshoot the right hand, go into a clinch and then wrestle around and throw wild punches like an animal, we'd take a shot. Hahahaha! He did it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Did his trainer ever I don't know tell him to maybe SHORTEN UP YOUR PUNCHES.
     
  6. newby johnson

    newby johnson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's Ulli Wegner's duty now, as Abe's trainer, to organize a heist and knock over the bank Abe holds his money in. You bet Teddy Atlas wouldn't let money stop his fighter from winning.
     
  7. Diggersan

    Diggersan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wonder if Martinez could knock out Abraham?
     
  8. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Abraham is a limited fighter who puts all his eggs in one basket. He thinks he can knock everyone out. He stays in his shell for rounds at a time because hes used to it from his days at middleweight where he would do that for so many rounds and then open up and get the KO, a lot of times they were come from behind wins. that doesnt work against bigger stronger, more talented men. Still, I got a soft spot for the guy for some reason. Hes an honest fighter, and he is what he is. If he didnt have that power hed probably be 15-15 or something, but his KO power makes him interesting.
     
  9. newby johnson

    newby johnson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AA tried in spots, he didn't try consistently throughout the fight.

    You say the difference is he kept coming forward. He kept doing the same thing (as I said, in spots he tried) and getting nothing for it, and he didn't change anything. That's not trying, that's an alibi.
     
  10. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    You bring up some interesting points that i wouldnt have thought about, you could very well be right along with the step up in class for AA. Oh yes and Wegner being a **** trainer.:good
     
  11. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    you guys are nuts talking about blame the money and **** like that.

    blame the body shots.
     
  12. Zacker

    Zacker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    AA's KOs come when he's not trying. When trying he gets real tense and telegraphs his shots more than anyone I've seen. AA gets his KOs when he's not trying. Yesterday he was doing the right thing for the first 2-3 rounds but he realized it wouldn't be able to win on points like that so he started looking for the KO. At that point it's over.
     
  13. Tyler-Durden

    Tyler-Durden Boxing Junkie banned

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    Exactly. But since he isn't that goot either ... they are pretty ****ed up. I think they should both retire instead of staying at 168.
     
  14. Finn73

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    The Abraham who fought Froch (who did a brilliant job) and Ward almost didn't throw any combos and if he did, the timing was bad. While it is true that he fought mostly guys who were not in the same league with Dirrell, Froch and Ward, I think he would've had a legit chance to win, if he would've let his hands go more often. It really seems he is scared of something. Where the hell were his flurries? I only counted a handfull. Even if AA never was a very active fighter his punch output seems to decrease. If he continues to fight like he did in his last fights, he is going to collect a lot more defeats. He needs a coach who works with him on his endurance/stamina in order to be more active and to increase his punch output. And he probably needs a psychologist who helps him to regain his fighting spirit and self-confidence. New coach and new team or retire.
     
  15. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Abraham is the exact same fighter he has always been. The only difference is fan perception. Fans and media built this guy up to be some kind of monster, but the only thing he really did was create the false notion that Pavlik was ducking him. He never beat, or even fought, an elite level fighter. As soon as he stepped up he started losing, and fan perception changed so that it is more in line with reality.