Aaron Pryor against the Welterweights of the 80s

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  1. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To each his own.
    But if u look at the totality of his career, the man was a heck of a fighter.
    I saw him do things only other ATG's could do.
    His combination punching was pure intuition, knowing where the hole in the opponents defense will be.
    He put his punches together better than most fighters in history.
    While I don't believe he would've had much success at welterweight and above, especially during the time he was at his best,
    Still, I give him credit for what he did accomplish.
    And head to head, I haven't seen the Jr. Welterweight I'd pick to beat him best night vs best night.
     
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  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His best win is over an ancient Cervantes and Arguello who didn't belong at Jr Welterweight and he cheated in their 1st fight.

    Sorry I've never seen the appeal to Pryor I think he's very overrated.
     
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  3. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pryor used his strength, toughness, work rate, and aggression to impose his will. Even though I think the fights with AA say more about Arguello's greatness being at the the end of his career up in weight, Pryor still beat him. And Arguello is 2 tiers up p4p greatness than the Pryors of the world imo. And for those 2 victories, Pryor is rated fairly I believe. His weaknesses were glaring as he left himself off balance and open for counters. I think Napoles would dice him up, but I dont think Floyd could handle his strength and work rate. Thats where Pryors ranking should lie
     
  4. Flash24

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    Ok. First it's your opinion he cheated, it's my opinion he didn't. And after nearly 50 yrs with all the people in Pryor's entourage never admitting it. And simply knowing human physiology and how long something taken orally would take to have any effect in the time left in that fight. It's highly unlikely at best anything could've worked in the less than 3 minutes left in that fight.
    And some food for thought.
    You called Cervantes ancient after his loss to Pryor, yet he went on to win four straight fights, with some good wins against Artis and Blackmore before deciding to retire after a close loss to Danny Sanchez at the old Jai Alai fronton in Miami .
    Yet Not one of Mayweather Jr.s opponents at welterweight and above ,other than Alvarez accomplished the same after he beat them.
    And Alvarez went to May Jr's school of selective opponents to face.
    So does the same reasoning apply?
     
  5. Dynamicpuncher

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    I can't imagine how you don't think something sinister didn't go down with Panama Lewis and the "Black bottle". You'd have to be pretty gullible to think that was all above board especially knowing what a scumbag Panama Lewis was. He did allow one of his fighters to assault another fighter in the ring without padding in their gloves so if he can do that he's capable of anything.

    I've heard it was a crushed asthma pill in the bottle that opens up the lungs and helps with fatigue so make of that what you will. Whatever it was it certainly gave Pryor a boost in the later rounds and Panama Lewis wouldn't say "gimme the bottle the one that I mixed" if it wasn't going to be beneficial to Pryor.

    As for Mayweather not really sure what he has to do with this convo quite honestly ?

    Pryor has two notable wins on his resume and that's pretty much it.

    Cervantes was at the end of his career it was similar to McGuigan dethroning Pedroza.

    And Arguello was above his best weight and the win has a major asterisk over it.

    Like I said I think Pryor gets vastly overrated I'm not saying he wasn't a good H2H fighter at 140 but people put him on a pedestal that frankly I don't think he warrants it quite honestly.
     
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  6. Smoochie

    Smoochie G.R.E.B G.O.A.T Full Member

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