Aaron Pryor v Ted 'Kid' Lewis and Jack 'Kid' Berg

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  1. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Could The Hawk beat either 'Kid' ?

    At the moment I favour both over Pryor but not overwhelmingly certain.
     
  2. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I’d favour him over Berg probably not over Lewis.
    Having said that I’m no expert on either.
     
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  3. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've started reading about Berg and Lewis in detail. Both tough and skilled men, by all accounts.
     
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  4. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I’m the same Stevie I know about them and looked at a bit of info on them their record and achievements, but I haven’t got a real in depth knowledge of them.
     
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  5. Mike Cannon

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    Hi Buddy.
    They were both very good fighters, and I use the word fighters advisedly, both were walk forward scrappers, Berg more so, Lewis took on the cream of WW and MW that America had to offer, and feared not one, he was the original " crashing, bashing, dashing, etc, ( Downes would appropriate the title many years later ) he was described thus by a reporter on the New York Times " Kid Lewis the iron boned britisher " sort of sums him up, would make most fight buffs top 5 of all time in British ratings.
    stay safe buddy.
     
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  6. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks for that Mike.
    I know he had an incredible 20 bout series with Jack Britton 9-7 in Jack’s favour with 4 draws.
    Can you imagine? It took Pretty Boy Floyd and Manny 7 or 8 years to make their match!
     
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  7. Saintpat

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    I think Aaron Pryor at 140 is about as close to unbeatable as a man can be at a particular weight. I’d put Wilfredo Gomez at 122 in that category.
     
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  8. Blofeld

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    This is a good question! And maybe unanswerable. I can only comment on Lewis as I know very little about Berg. One the plus side for old timer fighters I see their regular fights and the variety of opponents faced, plus less toxic temptations outside the ring. For 80s fighters we have better conditioning, possibly better technique (although Pryor is so unique) and possibly facing stronger competition overall. I mean how many of Lewis' 200 odd opponents would be as good as Arguello or Escalera?

    On the other hand Pryor was possibly destined to have a short career with his style, even without the drug issues, while Lewis fought from 1909 to 1929. Another difference is Lewis fought heavier guys all the way up to heavyweight (although as with Wilde it is difficult to tell if the opponents were that good, after all Carpentier KO1!). To me this would imply a ruggedness that perhaps Pryor lacked? He was wobbled by a naturally smaller man in his fight with Arguello, and taken to the brink in a total war (I maybe wrong though, Alexis was taller?). I am not totally sure what was Lewis's main fighting weight was though and if he was naturally bigger than Pryor?

    I think a very close battle, and if both fought all out maybe an all time classic match. If Pryor was at the Arguello level and had not been partying I maybe pick him but anything less than that I pick Lewis.
     
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  9. Blofeld

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    Btw interested to be educated on Kid Berg!