Aaron Pryor vs Carmine Basilio ?

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  1. Greb & Papke 707

    Greb & Papke 707 Active Member Full Member

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    15 rounds at Welterweight, who wins this all action fight of the decade candidate??
     
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  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I think p4p Aaron Pryor was the better fighter. But Basilio was a full fledged welterweight. I think much would depend on Pryor’s ability to effectively adapt to that division. He was basically a junior welter his whole career and the best men he defeated were guys who moved up from lower classes. Carmine was tough too. He was only stopped twice in over 70 pro fights and that came at the end of his career against Gene Fulmer for the middleweight title. I don’t see Pryor scoring a knockout.
     
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  3. Scott Cork

    Scott Cork Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Basilio in 4 against overated Pryor
     
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  4. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Look at what the Carmine did to the past his prime Carmine Basilio did to the past his prime Sugar Ray Robinson on Sept 23 1957, the onion farmer winning a split decision in 15 rounds. But on March 25 1958, Robinson regained the title back, clearly outpointing Basilio, using speed and counterpunching. Aaron Pryor, a proven commodity at 140 lbs, Pryor would use lateral movement angles and speed to do the same to the rugged durable Basilio as Ray did in the rematch, good matchup, Aaron by unanimous decision.
     
  5. Lenny

    Lenny Member Full Member

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    great question. SRR vs. Basilio is a classic. CB vs. Pryor? i am trying to calculate how many punches would be thrown. Basilio by slight edge. Only because of natural weight. What a matchup . Both would never be the same ...
     
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  6. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    I'm certain Basilio would win this.
     
  7. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am laughing at any other outcome.
     
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  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    TBF, he would be in Carmen's day.
     
  10. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In a perfect world Pryor would've been given a shot at the lightweight
    championship. His height and frame / build suggest that weight would've
    been a more natural weight for him. Other than Duran or Chavez, I haven't seen
    any lightweight I would feel comfortable picking against him at light/jr.welt.
    Basilio was about the same height as Pryor, but he was much more
    thickly built , carrying the weight of welter and middle very well.
    Both were action fighters, but Pryor had the overall better ability.

    Does that better ability make Pryor the favorite against Basilio?
    No it doesn't . This fight is a war of attrition , a long drawn out
    dog fight. Unlike the poster that believes Basilio ko's Pryor in
    4 rds, (Total nonsense, Basilio didn't have the firepower of Hearns
    with his height and reach advantages. A total disrespect of Pryor's
    ability and overrating Basilio) This fight would start out
    with the quicker Pryor probably leading after the 1st 5rds.
    But like the tide Basilio's better physical strength would
    began to push Pryor back into the ropes, where he does
    his best work.
    Baslio wouldn't stop Pryor, but in a 15rd fight at WELTER or
    above Baslio's ability to absorb Pryor' firepower and eventually
    walk through it would be the difference. Pryor would fight
    bravely but he'd loose. Baslio is the natural bigger man,his
    physical strength, his activity, and dogged determination would
    be the the key to a 15rd win over Pryor.
    Pryor wouldn't do well against the better natural welterweights and above
    in history.
     
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  11. Lenny

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  12. Lenny

    Lenny Member Full Member

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    Could not agree more with this analysis. Nice post
     
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  13. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pryor uses Carmans face as a punching bag. 15 round punchout.
     
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  14. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Excellent analysis but I respectfully disagree. Too me, the biggest and most telling thing about this match-up is Pryor's speed. A lot of folks are pointing to the more natural size of Basilio which is a valid advantage but too me, it's the hand and foot speed of Pryor that is the key difference. Basilio was not a huge puncher but more of a guy that won through pressure and attrition. I don't see either man winning by KO which means if this is going to the cards I'm picking the man most likely to win a decision. I just don't see Basilio winning the majority of the exchanges against Pryor and I don't see Pryor wearing down. All due respect to the great Carmen Basilio but I like AP.
     
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  15. Lenny

    Lenny Member Full Member

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    Nice points Steak8---- but i think CB could match him ......not early -but in the last 5 rounds. Did Pryor ever fight 15 with the intensity he showed with Arguello? If he brought that "A" game I could see your outcome