~~~ABCDEs - Ranking puzzle...~~~

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  1. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well that changes the equation entirely for me. It's like adding parentheses to an algebra equation.

    Either way, obviously and A is best and E is worst of the 5. B and C would depend on your criteria. I would have B slighly ahead of C, but not by a ton. B has 2 good wins, but the worst loss. C has the best win, but his losses in between means that could simply be a style matchup. D has the same problem as C, but his best win isn't as good as C's best win and his losses prove that he most likely doesn't deserve to be in the upper echlon. But his win is AGAINST C....

    So the answer for me is A, B, then C and D are interchangeable depending on who beat whom when , and the E is last.

    Either way, more information is needed to make this an accurate representation of how I would do my rankings.
     
  2. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    there ya go, you got it:rofl:rofl:deal
     
  3. chliJs

    chliJs Active Member Full Member

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    agree on both.
     
  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Some correct answers; some - clearly wrong!:deal
     
  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Any more takers? Too difficult for you?
     
  6. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That cause A beat D (who would beat both B and C) and who beat F 2x (F beat already A 10 years ago).
     
  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    5 people with the courage of their convictions! Nice!
     
  8. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Not on the committee, but I went A, C, B, D, E. A is clearly tops and E is clearly the worst. D only had the ability to beat the other two worst fighters, which puts him second to last. C had the ability to beat the best, which no other fighter had, which puts him second, ahead of the two fighters who could beat him. B sits in the middle. However, all of this could be subject to change if they actually fought each other, based on how convincingly they could beat the other ones.

    As for ranking, I'd only look at the past 10 fights, unless the fighter has an especially high fight rate. Anything earlier than that is pretty much irrelevant in determining how good they are now. I'd also consider the quality of opposition of their opponents, and of course, their actual skill level.
     
  9. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No such thing as clearly wrong unless A is not at the top and E is not at the bottom..those are the only OBVIOUS choices. You can say that they don't agree with YOUR way or ranking, but certainly not wrong.

    Lets look at the case of Cintron....do you have him ahead or behind Margarito? He is ahead of Margarito in my current rankings, but Margarito beat him in his past 5 fights. However, Cintron doesn't look at all like the same fighter, has since won a title.

    Clearly B, C, and D have 2 wins and 2 losses. Depending on what you value more is where you would rank them. Some will factor in best win and worst loss, some will factor in some kind of overall average. It also depends on HOW they lost.
     
  10. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    You should be able to rank them by the info given...for all practical purposes...

    10 fights! That is a lot! Heck, Morales would be a contender if you go back that far!
     
  11. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ABDCE

    re2, both, previous names and current fights.
    Without considering previous names you pick at the top all prospects who KO bums in first round.
    With only good names you favor old and inactive fighters
     
  12. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    There is a right answer, I think...and there is an answer that is wrong, that includes A first and E last!
     
  13. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And that is what you think. It is not what everyone will think.

    The committee isn't set to form a concensus opinion where everyone agrees. Not everyone ranks the same.

    As I said, some people value certain things more than others.

    The only clear thing in that scenario are first and last. The other 3 fighters are all 2 and 2 with mixtures of good wins and bad losses. Look at C, he has no BAD losses, he didn't lose to the worst fighter like B did. He has one HUGE win over A who is clearly the best.

    There are too many variables in these situations for a formula like that to work in real life.
     
  14. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I am not suggesting here that a very good case could not be made for more than one answer...but as far as I am concerned, there is one answer that to me at least makes more sense than any other.

    This exercise has nothing to do with the Committee! It was just a bit of fun! Take it easy, bro! I am not questioning anyone's ability to rank real life fighters!:good

    I'll pm you my answer, including detailed argument!;)
     
  15. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not upset at all....I am answering the thread in the same manner I answer everything. Probably my detailed answers seem a little serious, and for that I apologize. It is however, the way that I have always posted. (Probably why some here hate talking to me, but too each their own I guess)

    However, your thread title led me to believe this was about the committee.