Abel Sanchez says NO to fights vs Andrade/Charlo/Callum Smith but YES to Rob Brant !

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  1. Aston Villa

    Aston Villa Active Member banned Full Member

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    He wants it for the money way before unifications, very acceptable though imo
     
  2. Aston Villa

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    If Canelo can keep it mid range and not let Jacobs fight long I think the skill difference advantage lies with Canelo, he could light him up close I think. I'm not sure at this stage that GGG is the harder fight. You just poppin in though Bro ??:D Good to see your name a bit in threads, I thought we'd lost ya ;)
     
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  3. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Brant fight isn’t bad
    He just beat Murata legitimately
    We all are more familiar with Andrade that’s why we’d like to see it over Brant
     
  4. 22JM

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    But but but what happened to "Mexican style "?? According to Able and GG cheerleaders when Canelo did that he was "running "
     
  5. BCS8

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    The reason I think Jacobs is harder for Canelo is because Jacobs can both fight long and he can switch it up and straight up rumble if he has to. Golovkin fights at more of a measured pace. Jacobs tends to move around a lot and fights in flurries. Canelo likes to flurry too but I'm not sure that trying to rip off combinations against Jacobs is such a hot idea. Jacobs has, imho, a harder body attack than Canelo and he really landed some sizzlers against GGG's midriff. His extra range may mean that Canelo will struggle to catch him on the counter. Jacobs seems like a shitty style matchup for Canelo imho. I could be wrong, both these dudes are top level operators.
     
  6. JacK Rauber

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    You just have to laugh when you see these kinds of posts, intended to denigrate GGG. Canelo is given the MW title and then he runs away from all of the top talent to fight a nobody at 168 and all this OP can do is question GGG's motives. What a joke. This OP has an obsession with GGG.
     
  7. dinovelvet

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    At least Canelo got into the ring with Golovkin twice and fought for those titles. Bird balls Golovkin could have turned up the heat anytime during those 24 rounds and went in for the kill but he wouldn't risk it. He played it too safe and paid the price. He got too spooked by Canelo's aggression in the rematch and took a loss.

    He didn't have the gonads inside the ring to throw down and it seems he doesn't have any outside the ring either since he's turning down good offers left and right because he doesn't want to be there against guys that can fight back. Its possible he walks away from a Dazn deal since it means facing guys that are good. We'l see next year after he recovers from the beating Canelo administered him. :zplayita:
     
  8. rodney

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    There is no such thing as Mexican style. There is outside the punch zone, in the punch zone, and inside the punch zone. A good fighter controls his distance using all 3 and is in the punch zone one when he is the one punching.
     
  9. Antigoon

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    You don't like GGG?
     
  10. JacK Rauber

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    Last time I checked the challenger has to beat the champ convincingly. In other words, close rounds go to the champ. This didn't happen with either fight. The money, the hype and the fanboys are all behind Clenelo. So, you didn't answer the question, why is Canelo running to 168 instead of fighting the Young Lions at 160? Forget about GGG. He is no longer champ. Canelo should be defending his title but instead he turns into El Pollo.

    You go down Press Row and almost unanimously they had GGG defeating Canelo in both fights. Yet fanboys like you kiss Canelo's @ss like you have a big time bromance for the guy. Your cheater had two decisons handed to him because he brings more money to the fight game. Nothing more, nothing less, so stop acting like your guy is really the champ. He's not. He is a paper champ and guys like you haven't a clue. You're just sucking on the teet of fandom.
     
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  11. LANCE99

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    Truth. It's not like Canelo was offering to face Charlo or Andrade either.

    Nope...Canelo is doing the mikey Garcia/Adrien broner title hopping which EVERYONE loves so much....
     
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  12. JacK Rauber

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    Yeah, but Jacobs fights are not interesting. He back peddles and runs much of the fight, then is given credit when he stands toe to toe for brief periods since by doing so he is perceived as controlling the action. In other words, he is dictating how the fight is being fought. Personally, I think this is BS. This is why I always sided with guys like Hearns over Leonard, Hagler over Leonard, Frazier over Ali, etc.

    Jacobs is a bit of a conman. But most importantly he has the NYC market behind him. Without that, if he were from someplace like Des Moines, no one would care much about Jacobs. He lost to GGG. He would lose to Canelo, on points. Canelo would get the same kind of home cooking regardless of punch output and stats.
     
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  13. shadow111

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    Yes it did. In the first fight GGG won round 3 on 2 out of the 3 scorecards a round that most people thought Canelo won. G won round 4 on all 3 judges scorecards a round that was razor close and could have easily gone to Canelo. GGG won round 5 on 2 out of 3 judges cards another very close round that could have gone either way.

    G won rounds 6-9 each on 2 out of the 3 judges cards IIR, round 6 was very close and in several of these rounds G was caught with big uppercuts / big right hands. He did win many rounds that were close.

    That said, you can't score fights by just giving the "champ" all the close rounds. By that logic then GGG would only have won because he was the champ and got all the close rounds because he was the champ not because he actually beat Canelo or won the rounds.

    Well we certainly didn't expect him to move up to 168 and challenge for a Title there so quickly but it's hardly an "El Pollo" move. Moving up a weight class is daring to be great not a sign of being cowardly. Also he's doing so in December rather than waiting until next year like GGG plans to do so I don't know how you can criticize him for being active while GGG is sitting at home not fighting.

    Canelo has plenty of time to drop back down to 160 and defend his titles in May which he will probably fight Jacobs or have a 3rd fight with GGG.

    First of all, he's not a cheater and he is the real champ. You're in denial about what happened. You don't have to have a bromance for the guy to point out what happened, that he beat GGG that he won the titles legitimately in the middle of the ring.

    Most of Press Row having GGG winning (in the rematch it wasn't almost unanimous) doesn't prove that he won. There are many factors that affected public perception. GGG coming on late in the rematch for example after Canelo won most of the first 8 rounds, but the press row scorers could have found reasons to give GGG one or two more of the early rounds than he really deserved. (of the first 8, G only won rounds 1 and 4 clearly) So if you score the first 8 favorably for GGG and lets say you end up with it tied at 4 rounds a piece going into the final 4 rounds you can easily give GGG 3 out of the last 4 rounds and have him winning. That's probably why so many press row scorers had GGG winning the rematch, they probably had it about even after about 8 rounds, even though Canelo was really ahead, then gave GGG the win in the final 4 rounds. All it takes is one or two swing rounds to go from a narrow Canelo win to a narrow GGG win.
     
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  14. shadow111

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    He's moving up to 168 to take on a champ at that weight 3 months after beating GGG. There's no way that can be described as a cowardly move.
     
  15. dinovelvet

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    Lol@ fanboy.. Im nobodys fanboy. I've ridiculed Canelo plenty in the past and felt Golovkin would blow right threw him years ago when the fight was first talked about.
    I respect Canelo for stepping up and taking on a huge challenge twice , as should most people. The only fanboys here are guys like you who still cry about the result and can't give Canelo an ounce of credit.

    Canelo getting the biggest money deal is sports proves the boxing world don't care about the opinions of fanboys on BN24. Golovkin lost a lot of respect by wimping out of the Mexican style action fight he spent 12 months begging for. If Golovkin was the real winner and everybody knew it , then his stock would be higher than Canelo's , except it isn't.

    Simple fact is Golovkin didn't adjust and fight like a true ATG in the rematch whereas Canelo did. Canelo moving forward played into Golovkins strengths , yet he fought exclusively behind his jab on the backfoot because he felt the connect range was too dangerous against a Canelo he knew was coming to knock him out.
    He didn't take the risks or impose his size , power and strength. He didn't let his hooks go because he was too worried about being countered to death. Canelo took all the risks and bust Golovkin up fighting the way the most people said would be suicide. Thats why Canelo won and its you who has to deal with it not me.

    Canelo moves upwards with the best deal in boxing and Golovkin stays in limbo. Nobody knows what Canelo will do in the future as he hasn't ruled anything out. They hinted at a Smith fight down the road.
    GGG on the other hand has ruled out half the MW division and his still hoping Canelo gives him another fight because he hasn't the mustard to build up his own momentum by fighting anybody thats good.
     
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