About Bruno's power..........

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by GoldenHulk, Jul 22, 2008.


  1. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not saying that Frank didnt hit hard with 38 ko's in 40 wins, but apart from his quick destruction of Coetzee, Bruno didn't really ko anyone who was a spectacular opponent.
    I watched his fight with Joe Bugner and despite outboxing Bugner the entire fight he never seemed to have Joe truly hurt, in fact he didn't knock Bugner down he Threw him down, and the timekeeper should have been seriously fined in that fight. The round was clearly over by about 10 seconds while Bruno attacked Bugner and the towel came flying in. Bruno's quality of opposition is really nothing to get excited over either, his best wins coming over Bugner, Coetzee, Coetzer, Carl Williams, and Oliver McCall, all good fighters but no one near the all the great list. He gave a still somewhat inexperienced Lennox Lewis a tough fight before Lewis knocked him out, Mike Tyson destroyed him twice, and losses to Tim Witherspoon and Bonecrusher Smith hurt his legacy even more. i know this will anger a lot of Brits, but I categorize Bruno in the same class as Leon Spinks, Jess Willard, and Primo Carnera.
     
  2. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As a Brit I totally agree.

    Frank was more a UK celebrity. He was in commercials, had a great rapport with BBC presenter Harry Carpenter. Hell he even had his own catchphrase 'Know whatI mean, arry'
    But he was never ever a top flight boxer - Every decent boxer he faced beat him.
    He is the bluprint for Amir Khan - Get as much milage from a limited boxer as you can.

    I would regard him as a 2nd tier fighter on parr with [but not as good as] Mercer or Ruddock
     
  3. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    He stunned Tyson just as much as Ruddock. So no power deficit there.

    A single punch from him made the granite chinned McCall literally fly across the friggin' ring into the ropes. Probably as hard as McCall's ever been hit in there.
     
  4. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think you can fault his power. As a one-punch hitter, he was always near the top in his era.
    He had his problems as a fighter, but power wasn't one of them, imo.
     
  5. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Bruno had superb power.
     
  6. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    His damned jab was like a lot of heavyweights straight right hands.

    And who's going to fault him vs. Bugner?

    Bugner was god damned near indestructable? Who ever put him down?

    Shaver's? Frazier with a bodyshot?

    Woopty friggin' doo.
     
  7. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    There is no debate about Bruno's power IMO. It was the one thing about him (possibly jab aside) that was world class.
     
  8. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I still think his power is overrated. Lewis, the Klitschkos, Bowe, Tyson, Corrie Sanders, Shavers, Foreman and Lyle all hit harder in my opinion and knocked out better opponents. I have Bruno's book From Zero to Hero, and it has commentary on every single one of his fights and frankly speaking a lot of his opponents were complete nobodys. Yeah he knocked out 38 out of 40 wins but 30, probably even a few more werent even quality fighters.
     
  9. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You could see Bruno was a huge puncher just by watching the kind of knockouts he scored.
     
  10. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bruno had a clubbing power coming from having great strength.

    He stopped a lot of the 20-40 ranked fighters who normally would go the distance with contenders. That in fact hurt Bruno as he never really learnt how to pace himself and that cost him in big fights.

    Someone like a Tyson had timing based power, that looked a lot more spectacular than Bruno and also could be used more effectively against the very best.
     
  11. Dave's Top Ten

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    Big Frank had great KO power but threw punches like he was underwater at world class level. Just too slow and robotic. I actually think Bruno had raw power comparable to someone like Tyson, but Mike's speed and timing made it a hundred times more effective.
     
  12. abraq

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    Overall, Frank Bruno was a decent fighter. Good enough to beat the middle-rung and even the mid-upper rung fighters. But not good enough to beat the really good ones, except for Coetzee and McCall maybe. Bugner was old and past his best when Frank beat him.

    As far as his power was concerned, I would say that he had very good power, just below those of the truly great ones like Foreman, Tyson, Shavers, Liston, etc.
     
  13. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he'd ever become a smoother boxer, been able to throw in better combinations, he could've scored some frightening knockouts. I think he could've actually stood to lose some of that muscle, it made him a little stiff and it sometimes felt like an added drain on his stamina.
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    He hit very very hard, but he also hit SLOW, so the good world-class fighters were unlikely to be KO'd by him, they'd see his punches coming, enough to take a lot of the steam off them if not totally avoid them.
    Guys like Witherspoon, McCall, Lewis, Tyson - they caught some hard punches that certainly gave them great discomfort, but they were all too good (or just too durable in McCall's case) to be knocked out by such a slow or predictable fighter as Bruno was.

    Bruno was one of those fighters you figure would lots of world-class fighters would be very confident of WINNING against, but also the kind of beast who any one of them might not really look forward to facing.
     
  15. Russell

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    215-220 would of been a great weight for Bruno, in my opinion, which he was at for a few years, anyway.

    His career high weight from his last two fights against McCall and Tyson was 247 pounds. At that career high weight he actually went 12 rounds when he took the belt from McCall.

    It's weird.

    Even when he was 230 pounds he won back to back 8th round stoppages in 88', one of them against the ultra durable Joe Bugner.

    Weird one, that guy.