Abraham is a SLUGGER: Yet he isn't 1 dimensional?

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  1. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    PLEASE SLAP YOURSELF.

    :patsch

    Abraham is as one dimensional as they come. A combination of his height, reach, lack of upperbody movement, lack of speed, and reliance on power limit him to being a one-dimensional slugger.

    I don't think that people really understand the meaning of one-dimensional when they say that Pavlik is one-dimensional, but Abraham is not.

    Abraham has one plan going into a fight. That is to absorb the other fighter's shots on his gloves until either, A) The other fighter tires himself out and leaves himself open, or B), The other fighter gets desperate and tries to find openings on the inside.

    Abraham can't box worth a ****. And don't tell me he was great at boxing nobody knows who the **** his name is from Azbackastan or some **** because that mother ****er doesn't count.

    The fact of the matter is that Abraham is a protypical slugger. He's a guy that doesn't like to throw that many punches, doesn't like to move around that much, and just likes to knock people out, the sooner the better, because as the match wears on it lessons his chance to win.

    What makes Abraham so dangerous is not his "unpredictability," like so many fools like to claim, but his ability to absorb punches on his gloves, testament to a great chin, considering he has absolutely no head movement, and his POWER.

    Plain and simple.

    So can he box? Well, let's see.

    His footwork is dismal at best. Yeah, he has decent footwork for a round or two, but after that, he's just a sitting target with a highguard that can take one hell of a beating. He doesn't have fast hands, and he doesn't have great reflexes or a spectacular jab.

    The guy cannot BOX.

    Is the guy a volume puncher?

    Considering his low work output, lack of speed, and the fact that he covers up for the majority of the fight, I it rules this one out too.

    So yes, ABRAHAM is as ONE DIMENSIONAL AS THEY COME.

    Damn, some of ya'll need to slap the **** out of yourselves for thinking you know boxing when you might, but your bias blinds you from reality.

    Is Abraham a bad fighter, NO. But the mother ****er is a one-dimensional slugger, but that doesn't mean he can't do well with what he's got.

    *ON A SIDE NOTE, those that are calling Pavlik one dimensional don't really know boxing, but I'll leave it to this.

    If Pavlik goes straight at Abraham and tries to mow him down, not using his reach and boxing advantage in his favor and gets knocked out in the process, I'll say that Pavlik fought a stupid one-dimensional fight.

    If Pavlik is smart though, and uses his jab to set up shots and makes Abraham have to throw first on occasion, then how in the **** could he possibly be one-dimensional?
     
  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    You're a damn idiot, instead of starting a thread you could've easily replied to my post in that thread, but I'll paste it for you and wait for your response.

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    Yes I do understand what one-dimensional is and almost all of the fighters you support seem to have that style and I don't need you to explain it to me.

    Abraham is NOT one-dimensional, a predictable fighter like Pavlik is one-dimensional, Abraham is NOT. The thing that got Miranda desperate in his two fights against Abraham and forced him to use illegal tactics is the fact that Abraham was unpredictable and left Miranda confused, same thing he did to Eastman if you remember that fight. Abraham would back off with his guard up at times then all of a sudden shoot it 2-3 big punches, he would also use his jab at times, take it to the middle of the ring when he has to...etc, that's NOT how a one-dimensional fighter fights. Throwing predictable lefts and rights and just stalking IS one-dimensional, not knowing how to adapt and go defensive when needed IS one-dimensional, Abraham doesn't fight that way and his tactic isn't always easy to figure out which keeps his opponent cautious at all times. You're the one who's crazy and need to watch more of his fights, one or two fights don't explain it all. The reason why Pavlik is capable of boxing here is his height, reach and jabs that he knows but "boxing" isn't only throwing jabs then hayemakers after them, a true boxer is a fighter that knows how to adapt, has movement and defense whenever he needs to use them. Abraham isn't a pure boxer, that's not what I said in my first post nor am I saying that here so please avoid from putting words in my mouth in your next reply as you always do once you hit the usual desperate level. My point is Abraham CAN adapt when needed and box if he has to in comparison to Pavlik, NOT in general.
     
  3. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Let me break it down for ya'll. There are basically three styles. Slugger, boxer, and volume puncher.

    Yeah, there are hybrids like boxer-puncher, but when the heat is on, the fighter goes back to their roots.

    Abraham has shown me nothing but slugger. He has slugger written all over him.

    "Yeah, but he's unpredicatable....."

    :patsch

    No, he's not. He does the same ****in thing every fight. That ain't unpredictable folks.

    Damn.
     
  4. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes he IS unpredictable, you DON'T get your opponent frustrated and confused unless you're unpredictable.
     
  5. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    if Abraham is multi dimentional
    Pavlik is too
     
  6. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Scar, WTF are you talking about?

    So, I guess one day we'll say Abraham box, huh?

    The mother ****er aint' gonna box. He's a stationary target that uses the same strategy over and over again.

    Just because he landed a punch Miranda didn't see coming OR actually didn't put his mother ****in hands up against his face to block, doesn't make Abraham unpredictable.

    OMG........He's so unpredictable.

    Get outta here.
     
  7. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    No you slap yourself please.

    Abraham is NOT one dimensional.
     
  8. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    Please continue to speak the truth. :happy
     
  9. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Well, if you weren't slapping yourself so hard, maybe you would realize that Miranda is as one-dimensional as they come.

    He only knows foward and can't box worth a **** either.

    The only thing he has going for him is his power and his reach.

    Yeah, but Abraham........No. But Miranda.

    Yes.

    Understand?
     
  10. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    One-dimensional is just a bad word on this site. Being great at the few things that you do, is better than being halfarsed at a wide array of abilities.
     
  11. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    I would be willing to put my ESB membership on the line with the loser never to return Capfunds that Abraham would beat Pavlik.
     
  12. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    He's not?

    Okay, so I guess he's gonna box the **** outta Pavlik or get in there and throw 80 punches a round?

    I don't think so.

    No, the mother ****er is gonna shell up and take a beating until he sees an opening when/if Pavlik gets sloppy and lets Abraham get on the inside or Pavlik tires himself out.

    Pavlik is the only one outta the two that is capable of boxing. Pavlik can outbox Abraham. Abraham CANNOT outbox Pavlik. I would love to see him try. He can't.

    The question though is WILL Pavlik try to outbox Abraham or will he just try to mow him down and possibly leave himself open?

    Abraham, we KNOW what the **** he's gonna do. He has no choice unless he wants to try to dig in and turn volume puncher, but the mother ****er doesn't have the speed or head movement to pull that **** off.

    So yes, ABRAHAM is ONE DIMENSIONAL. How is this so hard to see?
     
  13. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Did I say that he wouldn't beat Pavlik?

    I didn't say that ****. Although, I don't think he will, I'm just saying WE KNOW WHAT THE MOTHER ****ER IS GONNA DO.

    HE HAS NO CHOICE.

    The only one who has a choice of how to fight in this fight is Pavlik.

    If Abraham tries anything new, he's gonna get KTFO.

    That's ONE DIMENSIONAL. I'm sorry if he's your hero, but the mother ****er is one dimensional.

    He good at that one dimension, but he has NO CHOICE.
     
  14. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    See, that's what I don't get about ya'll around here.

    You're like, "My fight picking RECORD IS EXCEPTIONAL."

    Yet, ya'll don't know what the **** your watching.
     
  15. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    If the only fight you saw of Abraham is his encounter with Miranda then that's your problem, try to see more of him and MAYBE you'll understand what I mean. Abraham IS unpredictable and has very underrated/good defense which you obviously refuse to see nor give him credit for either because you haven't seen enough of him or you're just being the typical nuthead that you are.