Abraham is a SLUGGER: Yet he isn't 1 dimensional?

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  1. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He have his own style ... which is important for a great and MEMORABLE fighters. If his style is working for him ... he is unbeaten, blowing out all dangerous opponents then he may be even ZERO-dimensional for me. Lets him continue to be unbeaten champion and if he beat Pavlik he can have his style to the retirement.
     
  2. curmudgeon

    curmudgeon Active Member Full Member

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    One dimensional or not, he knows what the **** he is doing.

    And I can count at least two dimensions in his plan - underrated defence and movement: you do not go 8 rounds with a broken jaw against a top ten puncher unless you can defend and move - and explosive one-punch KO power in both hands.

    That's some pretty good two dimensions.
     
  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Exactly how many times have you seen him fight ?
     
  4. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Unless I can't count with one hand fingers, the defence (like high guard and good while not broken chin), movement and one-punch KO power in both hands gives at least THREE dimensions. Not mention he is a sharp and accurate counterpuncher which sums into 4 dimensional skill space.

    However I agree that if you know he will take all your shots at the guard, then counterpunch you as long as you start crying and then KO your ass out of the ring .... and if you cant do anything against that then he is really PREDICTABLE looser.
     
  5. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Good Post. I know you are a big AA fan, so it's refreshing to see an honest post. Pavlik enjoys a huge height and reach advantage, and he needs to use that to the utmost. AA can change the course of a fight with 1 or 2 shots, so Kelly would be stupid to alow a war on the inside. That's why I keep saying Arthur's best chance would be to jump on Kelly right at the opening bell. It generally takes Pav 2-4 rounds to hit his stride. Every time he has been down it was early in the fight.
     
  6. iceman

    iceman Tis my Island Full Member

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    There are some interesting posts on this thread but this one makes most sense to me:good
     
  7. kungfu

    kungfu Member Full Member

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    Man, who gives a toss..hes undefeated!!!!! '1 dimensional' is just a dumb phrase made up by forum freaks to put someone they dont like down, whatever abraham is....its ****in successful! Hes predictably unpredictable if that makes sense, he can explode out of his shell at any moment just when you thought he was on the defensive.

    He beats pavlik by tko imo.
     
  8. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    Having a variety of different punches does not make you multi dimensional, it just makes you a good puncher.

    Abraham has a peak a boo style and then loads up hard in spurts throughout a round preferring to counter punch.

    There are not many things that make you multi dimensional and having a variety of punches and a ear muff defense ISN'T one of them!

    Can Abraham back peddle off his back foot landing jabs? I don't know.

    Can he come leading in with a punch with proper foot movement to avoid trouble right after that? I don't know.

    Can he move his upper body movement to allude consecutive punches? I don't think so.

    Can he lead a fight, by being the one to engage in the action and pressure a fighter? I Have no idea..

    He basically has a winky defense, with some hard shots and throw his punches in flurries.


    Winky Wright was 1 Dimensional as well, flat out and if anyone thinks otherwise they're wrong.


    Based off what I saw with Abraham in 2 fights, he is 1 dimensional to me. Unless I see him do something else than fine thats great.

    BTW I also don't think he is just a slugger. Why? Because sluggers Think about punching first and defense second! Abraham ****ing thinks Defense with his ear-muffs for like 2 minutes 30 seconds of every round and then flurries with hard ass shots for about 30 seconds worth of a round.


    So both of y'all are wrong! He isn't Multidimensional(based on his 2 fights with Miranda) and he isn't a Slugger!!!


    I haven't seen much of Abraham so I have said what I thought with what I know of him.
     
  9. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Arthur has one advantage; concussive one punch power. EVERYTHING else -- stamina, work-rate, boxing ability, height, reach, KO ratio, speed, footwork, et, et -- goes to Pavlik.
     
  10. Tom_Tocca

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    hmm, footwork and speed??? - more like a toss-up...
     
  11. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Man I knew the Pavlik fans would be insecure about Abraham but this is friggn ridiculous.
     
  12. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    That's my point, if he was one-dimensional he wouldn't know what he's doing. A one-dimensional fighter does only one thing from start to finish and keeps doing it till he gets it done or doesn't.
     
  13. BITCH ASS

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    I don't understand how a Floyd fan, who is a TRUE multi-dimensional fighter could say that Abraham is as well.

    You know damn well if Floyd was fighting Abraham, you would be like, "Abraham has no chance. He's nothing but a slugger...etc...etc..."
     
  14. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Damn you're a dumbass. :patsch
    I never said he's MULTI-dimensional, all I said that he's NOT one-dimensional as you said he is. My point is that he does lack it all but still has other options, doesn't necessarily mean he's SRR or Floyd. If someone like Floyd met Abraham my answer wouldn't be "He's one-dimensional...etc" unless it was someone like Pavlik or Margarito, then yes I will but Abraham isn't(Still doesn't mean he's SRR but means he isn't predictable and has OTHER<NOT ALL> options).
     
  15. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    Should I just double my post? He isn't Multi Dimensional OR a Slugger, What is so hard to understand about that?