Abraham Unification in US

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  1. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Taylor vs AA would be a REAL good fight.... LOL at anyone thinking taylor makes it out in an easy fight....

    not sure with AA vs pavlik.... i know AA is good, but to me, if miranda could give AA problems, i dont see why pavlik wouldnt just do better. Pavlik to me is superior then miranda at almost everything including speed and power.

    i still think it would be a good fight, but aa would have to do something differant, his winkyish defence imo wouldnt be a good idea for this fight.
     
  2. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why does he need "his judges and his refs"? He has knocked out most of his opponents.He had a quite close fight with Eastman,but he would probably have won that fight anyway anywhere outside Germany.
    Miranda? He beat him with a broken jaw losing tons of bloods inside that slaughterhouse alias the box ring that night.
    You are entitled to your opinion! Who knows ?Pavlik might be able to knock him out early! I for my part doubt it very much.Abraham has a great chin.He even defeated Miranda -who is known to be a fighter with pop in his fists- with "no chin "at all.
     
  3. Hrak

    Hrak Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Some of you guy are just stupid saying Pavlik or Taylor would make short work of Abraham. I myself would pick Pavlik over Abraham but this is in no way an easy fight for Pavlik or Taylor. Neither guy is invinsible, Pavlik was on his way out in the second and Taylor got KTFO, so I don't see how a skilled proven puncher like Abraham has no chance against them. Abraham is the biggest threat to Pavlik at middleweight, thats the truth.
     
  4. Jose FM

    Jose FM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    AA is a bum, Pavlik would KO him no problem. If AA tries to cover up with his poor mans Winky Wright's defense in trying to absorb Pavlik's punches he will get Knocked out. If he tries to slug it out with Pavlik, he gets knocked out. If he tries to box with Pavlik, he will get knocked out. I dont see how AA can beat Pavlik, none whatsoever!
     
  5. Cerberus

    Cerberus Kérberos, Hound of Hades Full Member

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    Pavlik would brutalize the poor German.. let him stay in his homeland and continue to defend against street-corner bums. He wants no part of Pavlik.

    Abraham might have a pretty good chin, but he has never faced anyone near the punching power of Pavlik. The only Abraham opponent you can make an argument for is Miranda, and Miranda broke his damn jaw with a single punch in the first half of the fight. :yep

    Abraham vs Taylor would be interesting though.. would be a good scrap.. could go either way..
     
  6. Jose FM

    Jose FM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah thats cause his head movement is non-existant, he tries to absorb punches with his gloves leading to many shots slipping through and connecting. Pavlik would land and knock his ass out. I hope it happens, i will have more respect for AA, but in no way does it mean he would win.
     
  7. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Makes me smile how many haters have come out of their holes to claim that Abraham wont have a chance against superman Pavlik!
    First of all Abraham doesnt stem from Germany,but from Armenia.I guess you have no idea what I am speaking about.Just for you:Armenia and Germany have as much in common as the USA and Bolivia.Different language,different mentality,different customs,different people.

    Street corner bums,eh! Eastman,Gevor,Jantuah,Gardner,Ikeke,Taylor,Velasco,Miranda-street corner bums,eh!

    By the way do you know Vincent (12-24)? Guess what? Pavlik faced him in his 26th pro fight.

    Miranda the biggest puncher Abraham has faced so far? :lol:
    What the hell do you really know about fighters like Eastman or Ikeke? The Armenian has faced other punchers ,too.
    Besides Miranda wasnt able to finish off an severly injured opponent whose blood made the ring look like a room in a slaughterhouse.
    And lets not forget that Abraham was the one who seemed to be more likey to score a ko that night. He almost took Miranda out in round 9 of their encounter.Do you truly think that Miranda would have survived 12 rounds if he had been the one whose jaw was broken twice having to face a healthy Abraham for more than 7 rounds?


    Abraham has never faced anyone near the punching power of Pavlik,eh! The same could be said about Pavlik,too.So far he has never faced a fighter near the punching power of Artur Abraham.
     
  8. tpuz

    tpuz Active Member Full Member

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    Dude, you only have 50vcash, you obviously aren't very good at pickin fights. I will pick Pavlik, just because you picked Abraham.....thanks for the tip!!
     
  9. Tom_Tocca

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    Finally it would be the Michalczewski - RJJ, Juan Carlos Gomez - Vassiliy Jirov of our time that would be going to happen...
     
  10. tpuz

    tpuz Active Member Full Member

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    huh
     
  11. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I just want to say that german members should stand up and tell what is who for the sake of great armenian middleweight Arthur Abraham... The sooner Arthur face Kelly the better.
     
  12. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bull**** in my opinion. Abraham is a paper champ from Germany, enough said really. Paper champs from Germany do not go to the states and fight in big unification fights. Their promoters wont let them, even if he himself wants to, which I doubt. Pavlik or Taylor beat him pretty easily, and he probably knows this.
     
  13. unitas

    unitas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you sound like a 12 year old.........only whining no arguments.:|

    were you abused by your parents??? did daddy "tuck you in" every night:yep
     
  14. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    Then why would Haye going to face Wlad at HW? He would know to get KTFO...
     
  15. K2ray

    K2ray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe, great fighter that he is, hasn't exactly gone over there either...In defense of German based fighters, they did have to witness Strum being robbed by the Golden Boy:deal