Abraham vs Elcock

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Chilli, Dec 8, 2007.


  1. tonikroos

    tonikroos New Member Full Member

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    athur would knock sturm ou-t Sturm neither has the chin nor the power to win against AA
     
  2. fatdrunkenslob

    fatdrunkenslob Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pavlik has very porous defense and is also a bit raw in technique. I think Abraham will knock him down and then out on a counter. Abraham's timing, accuracy, handspeed, footwork and power are all up there. His heart cannot questioned either fighting Miranda with a broken jaw for most of the fight.
     
  3. d00k

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    sean: sturm is quick on his feet with good stamina, defensive and abraham is lazy / has poor stamina.
     
  4. RonnieHornschuh

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    AA has the heaviest hands in middleweight, no doubt for me. pavlik surely is strong also but the edge goes to abraham in my opinion.
     
  5. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    You ain't kidding man...dude's got devastating power.
     
  6. d00k

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    he has good power but lets not get carried away, i remember pavlik ko'ing miranda, something abraham didn't
     
  7. fatdrunkenslob

    fatdrunkenslob Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pavlik has good power but he needs to punch in bunches to knock people out. AA probably only needs 1 or 2 to floor him plus his defense is very good compared with Kelly's.
     
  8. fatdrunkenslob

    fatdrunkenslob Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Miranda broke his jaw early in the fight dude. It was a miracle he even finished the match.
     
  9. d00k

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    well he caught miranda a few times afair and couldnt finish him
     
  10. Alcaldemb

    Alcaldemb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Abraham never went balls to the wall in that fight, and when he did have Miranda ready to go it was in the ninth, after fighting for five rounds with a broken jaw and having lost a lot of blood.
     
  11. RonnieHornschuh

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    a healthy abraham would have put miranda away. he didn't go for the knockout because everytime miranda connected with something he spit out half gallon of blood. a shame that there was no rematch. maybe they will meet at supermiddle.
     
  12. d00k

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    hard to say, imo. after he broke his jaw he mostly ran and only the point deductions saved him. Of course he had to because of his injury, but it doesnt ultimately mean he would have won had it not happend.
     
  13. ron u.k.

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    reading that report,just reminds me of the way abraham fought against eastman.i thought apart from the last couple of rounds he did **** all.even the usual lethargic eastman in my opinion did more.
     
  14. Executioner

    Executioner Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lmao Pavlik clearly punches harder than abraham :rofl ..not even comparable.
     
  15. Chilli

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    You see Elcock was fragile from the start. Abraham just bide his time. Total mismatch.