Boxers themselves will attest to the fact that one solid knockout loss, sadly, is often all it takes to ruin them permanently. Again, it all depends on the fighter. Do a google search on Mike Quarry, the lightheavyweight contender of the 1970s. Quarry was 36-0 when he was stopped in four rounds by the great Bob Foster in 1972. After that, the quality of Quarry's performances deteriorated. In his later years, Quarry openly admitted that the Foster took something out of him psychologically, and that he was never quite the same again. There are many such examples.
the only reason pavlik was talking about going to super middleweight was to get a fight with joe calzaghe, and i can't blame him for that. but, since calzaghe appears to be ducking pavlik, i think we'll see a pavlik-abraham fight sometime next year. abraham looked too good last night for arum and pavlik to ignore.
You're the one that needs to do some thinking here with this foolish thread/post. The only reason why Miranda went the distance against Abraham is because of the injury, Abraham already hurt him during that fight and EVEN with the injury he nearly dropped him in round 8, the injury is what forced Abraham to be too defensive and survive. Pavlik didn't soften ****, even before Miranda fought Pavlik he was hurt against Eastman, dropped against Green and then came Pavlik. The man was never known for having an iron chin to be softened up and yesterday he was actually WINNING the fight before getting destroyed.
..and this is your excuse? Complete bull****.. Abraham beat Miranda last night because he was the better fighter..
What I'm talking about goes deeper than just the ability to take a punch. I'm talking about the well-known psychological effects of losing a big match in brutal fashion, and Miranda certainly lost in brutal fashion to Pavlik. Often beatings like that reduce a fighter permanently.
That was brutal indeed but still Miranda always had chin issues judging by past fights so his chin being "softened" by Pavlik isn't exactly true, that's the point I was making there. Also Miranda wanted this rematch badly that he kept talking about it over and over after that fight, he got what he wanted with the "catchweight" and hometown advantage yet got iced. Full credit goes to Abraham and all the excuses out the window.
Kenmore, I actually think you make some really good points. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like there will be much in terms of productive conversation in this thread. Most will simply resort to name calling instead of actually reading and thinking about what you're posting in this thread.