According to a certain poster, all of these fighters are faster than Roy.

What do you think? He says P4P these guys are faster than Roy. I say he's quite possible(literally) insane.

Ali
Patterson
Tyson
Joe Louis(otherwise known as Slow Louis)
Holmes(yes, Larry Holmes, yes he was being serious apparently)
Tunney
Charles
Walcott
Jim Jeffries(Yeah....I don't know)
Moore-( )
Dokes(........)

 

I still disagree with those 3 quite easily, though they are at least close in a P4P sense. The rest? :-(

 

He didn't have slow hands. He had good handspeed, it was his footspeed and reflexes that were slow. He had good handspeed, great accuracy, and great power. Jones had phenomenal handspeed, footspeed, and reflexes, for any weight. Louis had good handspeed for a HW. I think you're the only person who's ever lived that believes Louis was faster than Jones, in any sense. I could post this in the Classic Forum and it wouldn't get a much better response in your favor.

 

No, you seem to overdo the concept of P4P. If Jones gained 40 pounds he'd obviously not be as fast as usual because he wouldn't be natural at the weight like Louis. But in a sense of their speed for their weight, Jones was still much faster. As I said, Jones had phenomenal speed for any weight, he would've been an extremely fast Bantamweight. Louis had good speed for a HW. Not even on the level of Jones.

 

That was from Bert Sugar, am I wrong?

Sugar is notorious for his intense bias of old-timers. Ali, Patterson, and Tyson easily had faster hands than Louis. Easily. Seriously, I'm gonna post footage of him right now, and you're gonna honestly tell me he's faster than Jones? Compare.

Pretty good speed. It's his accuracy and overall punching ability that do it.

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Phenomenal.

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