according to Eze, cotto is still a better fighter than margarito

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  1. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Cotto's stance is solid aside from his vulnerability to uppercuts. When he does go the body however, such as with his hooks or uppercuts, he always keeps his guard hand high to protect himself, so he's not as vulnerable as you're making out. He should've switched it up from body to head is what he should've done. While Margarito's elbows are tucked low with his stance, he generally swings wide, leaving him vulnerable. They're basically the opposite in that regard. Margarito is open when on the offensive but guarded to the body otherwise, Cotto is open to the head when in his normal stance, but generally pretty protected when on the attack. That's why I feel Cotto would've done a lot better had he actually devoted time time to the body and taken a few more risks.

    However, what you say isn't off base either. I just think Cotto has the ability to fight a better, smarter fight, and win on points.
     
  2. IsaL

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    It's what we heard between rounds and it's what we saw throughout the fight.

    "Cotto stay away from the ropes." Cotto fighting along the ropes with Margarito all over him.
     
  3. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Well, common sense. He won't win on points by attacking Margarito. You know Lujan tried to push Margarito around the ring. And it worked while Margarito was pretending to be a boxer/mover. Once Margarito woke up and started sitting down on his punches the very physical Lujan backed off. He felt the power in those uppercuts.

    Cotto fought the fight he thought would help him survive. His nose was busted as early as round two and he had taken significant damage to his body within the first 4 rounds. He was under no impression that Margarito couldn't find him.
     
  4. Kamil

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    I agree with eze, also bet most ppl do on ESB
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  5. Sweet Pea

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    Switching it up, not generally attacking or trying to press him. If he fought with the Cotto boxer-puncher style and simply devoted time to the body consistently in his attacks in the early going, when he was winning the fight and basically outclassing Margarito, then Margarito himself wouldn't have been as fresh for the later rounds. Simple really, unless Margarito is invulnerable to Cotto's body shots as well.
     
  6. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Margarito's elbows would simply prevent Cotto from attacking.

    See what you aren't understanding here is Cotto's rythmn. He rarely ever goes to an opponents body first. He shoots a few jabs upstairs and will hit the head hard first. Then once he sees the opponent concerned about their face he will take that next step inside and throw a hard left hook to the body.

    Margarito's guard never came up..
     
  7. batang kanto

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    eze and sweet pea, you two are a comedic act sucking each others dicks. had cotto decided to fight margo the way he used to breakdown other opponents he would have been eaten alive much earlier. he did go to the body in the early rounds only to eat uppercuts from margo. the thing is he couldn't hurt margo, the only way he wouldv'e won is if he possess the mayweatheresque defense and movement combined with his firepower to get margarito off him. but he couldn't. margarito has his numbers. give them a rematch and margarito will still get the victory.
     
  8. Symphenyceo

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    His elbows are on the outside, cotto could have jab to the stomach. FFS anythin hit him in the chest anything
     
  9. Sweet Pea

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    Cotto's straight right to the body is also one of his more effective body punches. He used it a few times early on, but for the most part stuck to the head. That punch is just as effective to the solar plexus as the left hook is to the ribs.

    And I already gave my thoughts on when Cotto's best chances to attack to the body were, in exchanges. You didn't really mind that part. When in exchanges he should concentrate to the body almost solely, because that's when Margarito is open. Otherwise he should stick to what I said, switching it up to the head and body, relying more on the straight right to the body in those circumstances, the left hook when in exchanges.
     
  10. eze

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    Most of the people in your topic agree with me.

    Therefore you fail.

    Idiot.
     
  11. Sweet Pea

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    :lol: Don't be mad because of how terribly your thread failed. Aren't you supposed to be on Pacquiao's dick? I'm surprised you even know who Cotto and Margarito are.
     
  12. Ambition_Def

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    His elbows are in perfect position to smash you with an uppercut should you get close enough with your head down in a crouch position.

    That style of defense Margarito uses is simply to protect his ribs, his sides. And it also helps him to get off uppercuts very effectively. You throw a jab at his stomach he counters with his own jab or a right hand over your jab. You throw a left hook to the body and he takes it on the elbow and comes back underneath with an uppercut.

    There is a reason why he has gotten this far doing what he does. It's effective.
     
  13. Ambition_Def

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    Straight right to the body gets countered by a right cross upstairs. The left hook inside during exchanges gets countered by a sweeping uppercut that comes right underneath the guard.

    If you get a chance to look at highlights look at the fact that Margarito never stopped punching, even taking Cotto's shots and still landing his own in the process. He had NO respect for Cotto. That has never happened before.
     
  14. Symphenyceo

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    If you are fast enough it will work. Simple really
     
  15. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Sorry, I didn't realize Mayweather was the flash.