According to Tyson Wilder is a "journeyman"

Well, looks that in US, U.K and Central europe, not alone EE definition is different, how ppl use this.

A journeyman usually means at least to some extent overmatched by matchmaking " opponent " who will not be able to beat A side lad.
A side lads might be prospects: guys who are assumed as possibly highly ranked in future and back uped by prom.
Might be A side lads who maybe are not enough good to be serious prospects but they are usable for tickets sales in city where promoter does have fight events. Then, to ensure that local tickets seller will be usable in next events to bring income with him on fight card, promoter ofc prefers to match these with lads who most likely will not beat them up.

To increase chances to win vs journeymans often practice is short notice, different locations ( hire on short notice journeyman from aboard not from country where event is held ), sometimes to compete in weight class above their usual weight class.

Journeymans and their prices are different, depends from their fight record, ranking, who they had fought in pros and ams ( does matters a lot ).
There are different kind of journeymans: some from them previously had some titles ( different levels of titles exists ), later are over the hill, out of shape.

Guy with 7-1-1 record too might be a journeyman. Might be 10-10 or 0-10.
Levels too are different.

Looks that in U.K opponents with records like maybe 10-100 are more common than in other countries.

 

U mean divers?
It is different conversation, rare thing in modern pro boxing.

There is kind of fighters who aren't journeymans or divers , just they are over the hill, maybe doesn't train anymore but due to their ranking and resume continue to take fights: if these are enough well known, these corpses get not that bad paychecks.

 

Wilder is 1 fight removed from being a champion and is fighting to regain the championship in a few days. How does Wilder fit that mold? By that logic, AJ is now considered a journeyman.

 

The OP is a journeyman poster... he goes from thread to thread taking L's in all of them...well journeyman would be a compliment to him... hes just a bum..simple as...

 

Journeyman is a decent fighter not good enough to be consideref a contender or gatekeeper. That's the original definition and that's the definition I am going by.

 

If Wilder gets battered again by Fury and then goes onto fight AJ, I feel it`s safe to say the loser of that fight would be well on the way to journeyville.

 

If, the biggest word in the dictionary. Wilder isn't there yet. Tyson said no such thing in the interview. Just another stupid thread aimed to **** talk Wilder. Fools trying to justify Wilder as a journeyman because the definition has changed? LOL Dumb!

 

Regardless, new definitions for old terms and words doesn't nullify their original meaning and the original meaning can still be used and is correct.

So, what do you call a guy with decent skill, but not good enough to be considered a Gate keeper or contender?

 

I said that just like Tyson said Wilder is a journeyman....Stop making **** up...Take the L and move on...youre an embarrassment...

 

Oh, I thought we were having a serious, adult conversation. Your childish response tells me all I need to know, most importantly, I am right.

 

Actually, Tyson lost to journeyman Buster Douglas.

 

Journeyman is the term to use for a decent fighter not good enough to be a contender. Journeyman! It's the original definition.