Acheiving greatness without a title

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I have never been a big believer in the concept that a fighter needed to be a world champ to be great. There are quite a few fighters who never won belts who in my own mind ( and not necessarily anyone elses, ) will always be great.

    Here are just a few names :

    1. Jerry Quarry

    2. Sam Langford ( won colored world title, but not lineal )

    3. Harold Brazier

    4. Roland Lastarza


    The list goes on and on. If Frank Bruno hadn't won a title from Oliver Mccall in the 90's I'd have him in there to, but as it stands, he only improved his legacy by becoming a champion, so more power to him.

    anyone else want to throw in some names?
     
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  2. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    Do you mean only HW or all weight classes?
     
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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Jack Chase. Never won a world title, but was seen by many on the west coast as the uncrowned champion of the great 1940's MW division. Beat some great, great fighters. Be a millionare were he fighting today.
     
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  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Everyone you can think of Luigi
     
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  6. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    George Chuvalo.

    Beat Patterson in my eyes, and beat Terrell for the title as well... in my eyes.
     
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  7. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    The first one who came to my mind was Lou Bogash...
     
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  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Lloyd Marshall didn't ever win a title did he? And I'd pick him to cause a lot of top ten guys trouble in 168 and 175.
     
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    The Whaler My dog be thorough. Full Member

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  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Close the thread!
     
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  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Good pick,

    Chuvalo was tough and had some very good wins over some talented fighters. I have to put him on my list to.
     
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  12. Jear

    Jear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ill give Jimmy Bivins a mention. I dont think he got a title
     
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  13. JohnThomas1

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    What would be your resoning for Brazier's greatness Mag?
     
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  14. Senya13

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    Ezzard Charles never won a title at light heavyweight, but he's argueably the greatest 175-pounder in history.
     
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    Charley Burley. :good
     
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