active ATG ... sort them up

Wlad an all time great? Egads!

 

hopkins
holyfield
pac
mayweather
jones jr
toney
mosley
barrera-morales(barrera would be ahead but morales beat jones and pac, guys that barrera couldnt)

IMO this is how they rank but Jones jr, holyfield and toney are subject to debate because the keep fighting on well past their best.

 

Impossible to split most of these guys TBH, I dont think its even possible or fair to have someone on this list 7 or 8 places higher/lower than another.

Maybe I`ll just highlight other peoples choices & leave comments, thats the easy way out

 

If pushed, Id say its between Pac, Floyd & Roy for top spot, they are likely 1st, 2nd & 3rd in any order.

 

I think your chin plays a huge role in your ranking as well, for the bulk of their career none of these guys have had chin problems. Toney, Hopkins, Mayweather, Barrera have never been KO'D(Barrera TKO'd). Holyfield had wars with his stoppages outside of Toney and Morales was at the end of the road against Pac. Pac was stopped early on but has shown a great chin for the whole decade, but Jones Jr.s chin keeps him from being higher. Those two stoppages to less than one-punch guys were brutal and hurt his stock and I'm a huge RJJ fan.

 

If thats the case, Morales & Toney might lead the way, might.

 

Does that mean Ray Robinson, Joe Louis, Ali, Roberto Duran etc. are subject to debate too? C'mon, accomplishments are accomplishments, no matter how many ****ed up performances you keep bringing the fans to tears with 15 years later.

 

There isn't a lot separating most of these guys, at a glance I'd go for this

1. Jones
2. Pac
3. Holyfield
4. Hopkins
5. Mayweather
6. Barrera
7. Morales
8. Toney
9. Mosley

Barrera/Morales and Toney/Mosley can be switched without much argument.

 

1. RJJ
2. Pac
3. Holyfield
4. BHop
5. PBF
6. SSM
7. Marquez
8. Barrera
9. Morales
10. Toney

it gets tricky after 5

 

Pacquiao
Holyfield
Jones
Hopkins
Mayweather
Barrera
Morales
Toney
Mosley

 

Pac
RJJ
Holyfield
Hopkins
PBF
MAB
Morales
Mosley
JMM
Toney

 

RJJ - unbeatable in his prime h2h vs. anyone in history
PAC - Already an ATG and might still be peaking..scary
HOP
Holyfield - great resume but win one, lose one against the greats aint good enough
PBF - Great skills 2nd only to Roy but weak resume no matter how you spin it.
MAB/Morales
Mosley
Toney
JMM

 

The borderline contenders are not even contenders.

Marquez
Wlad
Haye

In that order.

 

are you talking about Juan Manuel Marquez in the same sentence as Wlad and Haye? You really shouldn't. Record speaks for itself.