Actor on set of Big Boss confirmed a fight with Bruce Lee with a thaiboxer

Lee was well known at that time. not as well known as a few years later. Coburn went to Seagall when he opened a dojo in California before he was well known and helped him get into the movies. at least that is my memory. The thing im saying about these guys is they did not have the criteria, from study, to rate a Lee or a Seagall or a Mike Anybody. Lee was very good. yes. not denying that. what i contend with is phrases like he is great or the greatest or better than this or that karate guy, boxer, etc. If he did not fight competitively it is all speculation. He did not train or teach Joe Lewis. through the years Lewis made that point repeatedly. now he has a video saying somethng like 'what I learned from Bruce Lee." Have you ever worked out with anyone in the gym or sparring, whatever, and they were not 'Your Teacher" and you still learned something. The bulk of his training with Lewis was watching tapes of boxers, etc. and choreographed drills. Theory. It is all speculation but I think Norris, certainly Lewis, Bill Wallace, Armando Comacho, Jim Andrews, Takashi Akusawa, and many many others. many from boxing and other fields and now from MMA would have completely owned Lee. He was overrated. People like Kareem and Mcqueen had very little experience in combative systems. of course they think he was the greatest. and they are right. he was the greatest they ever saw or could conceive of. i might live another thirty years. a hundred and thirty years from now i will be completely unknown and people will still be talking about Lee. that is a hell of an accomplishment. he did accomplish a tremendous amount in his life. he had great success and would have done a great deal more if he had not been murdered. but he did not even come close, not even in the top 25, to being the best in martial arts.

 

I trained under Tenshin Aiki and have met Seagal once and his son Kentaro a couple of times. The guy I trained under James Berkley said his biggest regret in life was not meeting Bruce, He was in Japan at the time and was training under Steven. Damn, Bruce was murdered?

 

Cum**** is our resident dumb ****.

Treat his posts as public therapy - "I post, I matter".

 

I studied under Takashi Akusawa. I began in 1966. 44 years ago. i reached the rank of eighth degree. i have fought many of the very best. i spent my life in martial arts. i know what is and what is not. i like mma. i appreciate boxing, wrestling, and many other combative styles. principles that work are principles that work. a person can learn from many others and their styles. first and foremost is principles. hard work. i have been to Japan many times. owned operated dojos. i taught hard but smart and always cared whether my students learned and could apply. i could go on and on. all this and ten dollars will get a cup of coffed in any coffee house in town. Lee was overrated. Lee was not a fighter. Lee was not great. I could list many people that were great and very few of them went around tooting their own horn in the fashion of Lee. The very best usually were disciplined and quiet, even reserved in their personal and professional lives. Idiots like comfag are not worth discussing. Wilhelm is right, go back to you action figure dolls. Mas Oyama is well known and was very strong but did not have very good technique. his approach was good in that it emphasized hard sparring and a lot of work. realistic. He was not anywhere near great however. It is highly probable that Lee was murdered and also his son Brandon. Brandon was going to call for an investigation into the death/murder of his father prior to his death. Lee had angered numerous people in the asian movie making/triad world. he was extremely worried and told fumio demura he was going to be killed. betty ting pei, the actress with him when he died, surfaced a few years after his death and stated she was ordered to give Lee a substance to kill him and she did. she was not prosecuted. it is a complicated situation and will never be reinvestigated.

 

Lees books are a mish mash of nonsense. if people spent more time training and less time reading nonsensical books like tao of jeet kune do they would be better off. run, calisthenics, weights, bag work, makiwara, technique training, and sparring, sparring, sparring, sparring, sparring, sparring, sparring, and more sparring. this is what is needed not silly books by Lee or any other silly prima donna.

 

I definetely know what I am talking about.

Cum**** is a useless poster who stalks a fighter on a forum yet won't reveal who he is.

See - I am right. :finger

 

Comfag, no doubt you spent your weekend with your Lee dolls watching videos of Transformer movies. now your wearing your favorite panties and typing on the keyboard again.isnt there a professional wrestling site you would be more suited for. Lee and Oyama.Lee had technique Oyama did not. punching bulls and breaking things impress the weak minded, hence your slavish devotion.

 

:rofl See you compaq!

 

Mas Oyama is pretty much beyond reproach as a Karate fighter; whatever peoples opinion of Lee, Oyama is completely bonafided. He was a solid Judoka as well.

Oyama was at least proven as one of, if not the single best in one style of fighting, something Lee certainly never came close to. In fact, there really is not one thing Lee ever actually did that is better than Oyama.

 

Has anyone said Lee would beat Fedor yet?

 

I will agree with Beebs on this. Lee would absolutely have his ass handed to him by Oyama. A little clarification. technique is one thing. there are aspects or variations of it. some people with technique lack power and Oyama had power. Lee was more of a technican but despite what so many say he was no Oyama or hercules. Lee was a technican. Oyama put forth a very realistic approach to fighting but kyokushinkai is a little sloppy.

 

That doesnt mean ineffective.

 

Agreed. Completing multiple 100-man kumite events is quite a bit more credible than beating up chuck norris in a movie.

 

Bruce Lee was an actor. As far as his martial arts? He was no different from any other legendary martial artist at the time. He put together a bunch of philosophies that had no outlet of being proven/disproven so, everybody took them as the gospel. Bruce Lee would have gotten strangled by Royce Gracie.