Actor on set of Big Boss confirmed a fight with Bruce Lee with a thaiboxer

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Canibus81, Jan 1, 2010.


  1. KERRIGAN

    KERRIGAN Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,714
    2
    Dec 21, 2009
    I guess it doesn't matter how badly you Bruce Lee nuthuggers get exposed, you will take that because it then opens up more doors for you to nuthug further, as you keep on trying to propagate the ridiculous lies and myths about Bruce Lee. :-(
     
  2. james4210

    james4210 Active Member Full Member

    1,023
    47
    Jan 12, 2009
    People might be thinking, oh God not this Bruce lee thread resurrected again. there has been a lot of argument and name calling. I'm not interested in what has been said before. I would like to share my thoughts about Bruce Lee, not to convince anyone but just because I would like to.

    In 1980 when I was nine years old. Me and my father and my sister had just sailed into the West Indian island of St Martin. My dad was in the boat building industry we had just sailed from Tenerife across the Atlantic.

    Anyway the first night we arrived we all went to see Game of Death at the cinema. This is the first time I saw Bruce lee. Naturally it blew my mind and actually the whole family took up tae kwon do.

    Pretty much the whole family's been practising martial arts since then. We were always travelling and enrolling in different martial arts school's.

    In my early teens the key Bruce lee books were. The Bruce lee fighting method series. And the tao of Jeet Kung Do. there was a time when I used to read the Tao' every moment I could, endlessly.

    Anyway here are some interesting factoids. which I think are relevant.

    Bruce lee was once challenged to a fight, by another martial artist. (One of many). Now in this fight he didn't really win but didn't really lose( information is very sketchy about how he came off in this fight, i.e. he might have been beaten up). In his own words described himself as " strangely winded" and he was left with the impression that his classical techniques let him down.

    This led to two things, his developing of Jeet kung do, the way of the intercepting fist, basically him trying to find out what really works in a fight . and a huge commitment to strength and stamina training, necessary to win a fight in his view.

    The one quote of his which sums up his entire fighting philosophy is "absorb what is useful, reject what is not". it's not a bad life philosophy as well.

    If there are any young guys out there, do yourself a favour and learn some respect. dig a bit deeper is worth it.

    The question has been much discussed here, how would Bruce lee fare against a BJ Penn or GSP. the bottom line is it doesn't matter. he would probably lose the FIRST time.

    The bottom line is, MMA would be right up his street, and the argument could be made that he started the whole mixed Martial Art ball rolling. because he was interested in what really worked in a fight over dogma and traditional techniques that didn't.

    Thank you for reading
     
  3. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

    37,070
    28
    Jul 21, 2004
    I know that story. I know it as him being 160 pounds and muscled. He was unhappy with his conditioning because he gassed after the fight last 3 minutes. Due to this he changed his training and went down in weight to 135 pounds.
     
  4. james4210

    james4210 Active Member Full Member

    1,023
    47
    Jan 12, 2009
    interesting, didn't know that. So anyway what you think about Bruce lee yourself?
     
  5. james4210

    james4210 Active Member Full Member

    1,023
    47
    Jan 12, 2009
    I should add, that I am not a fanboy as such. for a long time I went off liking Bruce Lee, as he struck me as vain as a poser.

    Two things have sprung to mind, anyone remember the proto- MMA fight at the beginning of enter the Dragon, complete with fingered boxing gloves, and submission victory.

    Second one, remember when Bolo, Hans bodyguard has Bruce lee in an arm bar and Bruce lee bites his leg.
     
  6. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,131
    2
    Jun 22, 2009
    This content is protected

    This content is protected

    This content is protected
     
  7. EddieShredder

    EddieShredder DoodSlag Full Member

    48
    0
    Mar 13, 2010
    :rofl:rofl:rofl

    This thread is awesome.:lol:
     
  8. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,698
    25
    Sep 16, 2008

    The TAO of Jeet Kune Do is a good read and I've read it and actually trained and learned some of his stuff. It has never failed me yet and i'm no expert at all. The problem with his style it's too complicated for a lot of people to learn and if your not cordinated it's not gonna work because you need that in order to develop the footwork from fencing which is critical to getting in and out from an attacker.

    Another thing about MMA fighters today, none of them make their techinques flow if you ever notice. Only fighters who do is, Fedor, A.Silva and St. Piere to a certain extent and is why they win all the time. Which is something else Bruce talked about with the water theory.

    And another thing is there is many rules in MMA now than back than some it limits fighters to a certain extent. So there is a big difference between Tornament fighting and street fighting. If you train for both you'll have an advantage. But no St. Pierre and Penn wouldn't beat Bruce Lee. Especially not in a No Holds Barred fight. And like I said I've trained in Bruce's style, not the watered down **** that people claim is his style, the real stuff and it hasn't let me down yet.
     
  9. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

    37,070
    28
    Jul 21, 2004
    Trained incredibly hard and this allowed him to achieve impressive physical feats. Talented but not spell binding. A very poor man's Cung Le with no genuine proven fighting experience. I'm sure he can fight but the guy hasn't even got a record full of journeymen in any martial art so we don't know if he could beat the lowest level of fighter in any combat sport. He could get ko'd by a jab Kimbo Slice style for all we know. I think he could do well in combat but fighting has intangiables like no other sport thus you can't say how a fighter would do unless they actually did it. Bruce should never be mentioned in the same breath as any mixed martial artist or combat sport for that matter.
     
  10. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,123
    11,409
    Feb 2, 2006
    I think Lee would dominate MMA if he fought because he would have incorprated the grappling into his arsenal as well as his strikes.And remember Kung Le did very well in MMA considering he was into his 30s before he started fighting in MMA.
     
  11. eltorrente

    eltorrente Active Member Full Member

    1,231
    1
    May 18, 2006

    Nah.. that wasn't Bruce that bit him. That was John Saxon (Bruce's white friend). Bruce didn't fight Bolo in Enter the Dragon. Cool scene anyway - though Bolo had a pretty weak (shallow) arm-bar. ;)

    I'm a big fan of Bruce Lee, myself. I think he would have really gotten into grappling had he been around from the early 90's on.

    Someone said he kicked a judo champion into a wall. WRONG. The pan-american Judo champion, in an interview, said it was a one inch punch that sent him flying. He said that he didn't believe he could generate enough power to do much to him, and he knew leverage and all that stuff, so he let Bruce try it on him. Bruce lined up, one inch away, and blam - he hit the wall. He was in disbelief.

    He also broke someone's arm, or ribs, (?) in the side-kick in Enter the Dragon that sent those guys flying into the chairs I believe.

    He really was powerful for his size. He wasn't just a movie star, that's for sure.

    At his peak he fought many times, especially in Hong Kong. Often just walking down the street, someone would come up and openly challenge him. One guy jumped the fence to his back yard and really pissed him off, and he really put the hurt on that particular guy. Many witnesses to his fights, too -since there were always people hanging around him.
     
  12. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

    12,816
    1
    Nov 14, 2009
    are you saying he should have carried around his iPhone and recorded some street fights?
     
  13. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

    37,070
    28
    Jul 21, 2004
    The point you have been making has been discussed throughout this thread. No point going over old ground.
     
  14. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

    13,158
    8
    Sep 27, 2005
    And he turned Steve McQueen into a great fighter? :huh
     
  15. james4210

    james4210 Active Member Full Member

    1,023
    47
    Jan 12, 2009
    I agree the Tao o Jeet' is an absolutely amazing book. I don't agree entirely with you that his system is complicated. I think it is more that it was created around a very remarkable person. It was very much a personal diary of his fighting knowledge,which was very indepth and mixed with philosophy. his motto was basically use what works, which is not complicated.

    You could well be right in your last point.