Actor on set of Big Boss confirmed a fight with Bruce Lee with a thaiboxer

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  1. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    The HK amateur tournament was 3x1 min rounds so it really makes me wonder.

    There are also conflicting reports as to how the fight went down - won by ko, decision etc
     
  2. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Never watch any NHB fights then?
     
  3. MaliSlamusrex

    MaliSlamusrex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is a slight problem with this argument, MMA has developed and is developing so quickly it's almost impossible to make an argument, at one time the BJJ fighters like Rikson ruled, then the wrestlers came along, then fighters like Sakuraba thought **** it I am going to use everything and try new things like the kartwheel down kick to win fight. Now the sport still develops and new Judo throws and skills are added to MMA every day.

    To say Bruce Lee has the skill of an average MMA fighter now is unfair because at the time there was almost no classical martial arts in the USA at the time of Bruce Lee, Bruce Lee took traditional Martial arts to the USA called it wing Chung did not but any barriers on to it and developed a no hold barred MMA fighing style. If Bruce Lee would have fought a boxer, a Muay Thai or Judo guy he could adapt because he was one of the first guys ever to study more than one martial art.There is no doubt he had skills no one could even imagine..... well in his own time



     
  4. gungfu

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    I think you have fallen into the 'romanticised' picture of Bruce Lee yourself.

    Bruce Lee's words were never 'gospel' nor 'mainstream' during his time. If anything, the majority of martial artists were against or blase about what he was saying, and only a minority appreciated that he had something to offer. It was only subsequently, as time wore on, that appreciation grew.

    Most people at the time, especially in the US only knew Bruce from the Green Hornet, and not that he was some martial arts pioneer. The fact that he even had a platform was because editors of Black Belt and other martial arts magazines were impressed enough with him due to the exhibitions he gave and through word of mouth. He had no singular unique platform that many other martial artists had. Indeed, because he wasn't touring the tournament circuit either, he had even less of a platform than say the likes of Norris, Wallace, Stone, Lewis and alike.


    People can say what they want about Bruce Lee, but if it's on a forum the chances are that the information and judgement given are nothing short of ill informed or totally bull****. The reality of the matter is that people who criticise actually know very little about Bruce Lee, and are using only a smidgeon of correct information - if that - mixed with all kinds of hearsay and rumours they heard down the pub and on other forums to make an assessment. Basically, how can anyone make a balanced and informed opinion when the background knowledge itself is unbalanced by the disregard for actual facts?
     
  5. gungfu

    gungfu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I watch everything. Thanks for asking.
     
  6. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Surprising in no rule fights no fighter that fought anything like Bruce Lee ever got near winning then, considering his street fighting prowess.
     
  7. gungfu

    gungfu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How is it a surprise? And what does 'fought...like Bruce Lee' even mean? Is that even possible? Only Bruce Lee can ever fight like Bruce Lee.

    Anyhoo, sorry, I'm not really into fantasy fights. Lee could and should be able to handle himself pretty well in a fight is pretty much all I know. I couldn't give a toss about anyone else who 'fought...like Bruce Lee' and got his ass kicked in a NHB fight.
     
  8. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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  9. J_Roth

    J_Roth VRWC Hybrid Beaner Full Member

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    Since we are going to believe everything in the movies, why don't we just agree that Arnold beat the Predator in real life? Stallone was a great boxer as well and when he sparred a low level boxer he didn't get his ass whipped either. Elijah Wood really did deliver the one ring and I've already survived a zombie apocalypse. BTW I was the camera man in Tomb Raider when Jolie showered. :dead
     
  10. gungfu

    gungfu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'll ask you this about Bruce Lee and his fighting.

    Do you know about the challenge match he had with a judo guy at the Seattle YMCA?

    Actually, it's a trick question. I know you have no idea.
     
  11. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Its amusing. Challenge match with Judo guy. :shock:

    I mean getting choked out by Gene Lebell, was it that time?
     
  12. gungfu

    gungfu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Another nobody talking through his ass.

    Considering that Judo Gene has the greatest respect for Bruce as a martial artist, and the fact that he has never said he ever choked out Bruce, kinda makes your posturing kinda redundant, doesn't it?

    :good

    Hey, you're in Glasgow, right? Go find a dude called Tommy Carruthers, and then get back to me and tell me what you found out about Bruce Lee's martial art skills.
     
  13. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    I'm not referencing movies when talking about Lee's capabilities. When I say Lee sent an Olympic Judo champion flying into the wall, I mean he did that at an expo. The man said so himself in a documentary. Curse of the Dragon, if I remember correctly. When experiencing Lee's power, he said to himself "I'm a world Judo champion, this shouldn't be happening to me". If you wanna believe all your little fictional characters that you mentioned really happened then that's fine with me. But IMO you should have yourself checked.
     
  14. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    You're a good poster 196. Stop talking **** that you don't have the slightest clue about.
     
  15. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    :lol:

    But your a somebody right? Your opinions hold more merit than mine or anybody else who thinks Bruce Lee had better idea's than he was a fighter?

    Bruce Lee from every, and I mean every video that has ever been posted of him does not show extra ordinary skills, greater than kickboxers like Dekkers, Por Pramuk etc, infact every single video he looks vastly inferior to them.

    His grappling is non existant and in a grappling match he would get tooled by anybody blue belt or above

    Because somebody has good idea's and their are reports of him winning fights against non world class fighters by people who are students of him, should outweigh the fact that all video evidence shows he wasn't some unreal superhuman machine kickboxer.

    Let alone being able to get near a world class grappler with that wide stance.

    Its insane.

    Like the Rickson Gracie rumours on steroids.

    im not some noob I know who he is and by all accounts 1. I wouldn't be welcome in his gym and 2. He is a douchebag.