Adalaide Byrd should never judge another boxing match again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by diamondDave, Apr 19, 2008.

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Which was the worse scorecard?

  1. 114-114

    10 vote(s)
    14.9%
  2. 118-110

    56 vote(s)
    83.6%
  3. 119-110

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. 117-111

    1 vote(s)
    1.5%
  1. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    It's not even mild cheating, like a 115-113, it's blatant eff you cheating. How much did GB pay this A Byrd clown?
     
  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's good that you respect Canelo, but I disagree that it's not about Canelo. It's very much about Canelo. You're disrespecting Canelo by crying about the scores which favored Canelo. The judges didn't land the punches that Canelo landed. Canelo landed the most impressive punches anybody has ever landed on G by far. Canelo is the only opponent to ever go 12 rounds with G without getting knocked down.

    Now you can politely disagree with the 118-110, but your disapproval over the scores, particularly Bryd's card as it sounds like you're OK with the other two cards so then it's not judges plural you just have an issue with "a judge". This is very much about Canelo. Now I personally thought G won more than 2 rounds, but there's definitely an argument to be had that Canelo won this fight by several rounds, by landing the better punches round after round. There's also an argument that G's aggression, stalking and constant pressure won him the fight by several rounds. Fans can debate this but acting like it's fact that either fighter won clearly is stupid.
     
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  3. juhave

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    I scored it 115-113 for Canelo. Most of the rounds were very hard to score. So I can understand many different outcomes but 118-110 is a bit odd though.
     
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  4. NewBoxingOrder

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    I have a fairly consistent scoring criteria. And I said this in another thread.

    If a fighter checks these two boxes, I will almost always have a hard time scoring against him:

    1. Landed more punches
    2. On the front foot

    This is a similar situation to Kovalev-Ward 1, in my mind.

    You can frame it however you want, as is your right. But you'll never convince me anything different about what happened in the fight tonight. Nor will you or anyone else convince me about what happened in Kovalev-Ward 1, or Pac-Bradley 1.

    In one sense, you are correct -- it is about Canelo. It's not his fault, but as a Cash Cow "house" fighter in Vegas fighting in front of "home" crowds, he is likely to get more subjective favorability than his opponents.

    This is why I would have been much happier had Ward fought Kovalev in the rematch in another location.

    There is almost always going to be an inherent unfairness attached to judging in a fight of this magnitude in the sport. Particularly when one fighter is seen as being on "home turf."

    As Erislandy Lara said:

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    All I would add to what Lara said is ------->
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    It's a shame, but it is what it is. This is not the first time poor judging will take place in the sport, and it won't be the last.

    Protest all you want and as loudly as you want, but long-time observers of the sport understand well the reality.
     
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  5. BoxingNL

    BoxingNL Dutch P4P Champion Full Member

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    I think it was all a set-up to get a rematch (and make more money)
    GGG won clearly.
     
  6. shadow111

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    Who’s the one protesting? I’m not protesting at all. I’m fine with the judging. The people that are protesting are the ones calling for Byrd to be exiled from boxing.

    I thought Canelo won but I understand and respect the other side. Quoting Lara is silly because he’s obviously still bitter about losing to Canelo. And as we all know he and many fans protested that decision. Lara is using this as the perfect opportunity to remind everyone that he really didn’t lose to Canelo lol. “See even Triple G can’t beat Canelo”.

    I don’t know how you can make the argument that Vegas is Canelo’s home turf when he’s not an American. Canelo doesn’t even live in Vegas. I can see that argument being used for Floyd since you know he lives in Vegas and is American.

    When Floyd got the decision over Canelo, you’d have a much better argument that that was favoritism. That result in a “home turf” fighter actually winning, this didn’t.

    I just want to be clear that the people who are protesting the decision are those claiming Triple G won. I don’t need to protest, I am fine with the decision. If you aren’t, then clearly you’re the one protesting!
     
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  7. BCS8

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    A troll acount from 2007. Nice.
     
  8. BCS8

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    I liked the close up of Mama Alvarez crossing herself a bunch of times.

    Hang on ... maybe it worked! 118-110 :scared1
     
  9. BCS8

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    Have to say that this thought crossed my mind too. But the fighters themselves didn't pull any punches so if there's a setup its with the judges.
     
  10. Erik

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    Not like this was a one off. Saul 'Ottke' Alvarez has a long history of getting these kind of score cards.
     
  11. juhave

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    I also got Canelo winning 115-113. Most of the rounds were very close and I can easily see that many people got GGG winning. But no way it was a robbery.
     
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    There simply has to be a rematch and its in G's best interests to take it now rather than later.
     
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  13. NewBoxingOrder

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    You are protesting to me about what I wrote, and doing so in an overwrought way by including things like "crying" and "stupid" in your rant.

    And I am telling you that I don't care what you think, so save your energy and fake outrage.

    I know what I saw, and I could not care less if you agree with it or not.

    You can feel whatever you want, but spare me the excess emotion. Take that to someone else's door.

    I've been watching fights and observing the sport for decades. I don't need an emo Canelo fan to explain anything to me.
     
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  14. qwertyblahblah

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    GGG deserved it, but it was pretty close, and you can make a case for a draw. There have probably been thousands of worse decisions in boxing history. It's ridiculous to demand or hope for the decision to be overturned.
     
  15. hdog

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    Yes by all means let's trust the FBI to sort this out, lol.