Adam Booth was very professional

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  1. twopiece

    twopiece Pugilistic Ambassador Full Member

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    He did no name calling nor did he use any personal attacks, He only gave specific reasons why Haye is not the one making this fight fall apart.

    Look at the difference from Mr. Boente.
     
  2. Bodysnatcher

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  3. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    He actually pointed out why this fight is falling apart. Haye is trying to use the fighting being in London as leverage to get more money, tv rights, and ticket sales. In other words... the bout becomes less attractive to Wlad. The entire reason why Wlad was bothering to give Haye a title fight was because the opportunity to put the fight in a stadium was very appealing. Haye backed out of the stadium idea so the fight became less attractive. Haye's own manager said that even if the fight was there, that Wlad wouldn't make any more money than he would if the fight took place in Germany. That does a few things. First of all, it makes it rather pointless for Wlad to come into Haye's backyard for the fight and not even get anything out of it. Two, it proves that Haye is trying to use the fight in London as leverage to make outrageous demands for a challenger. Also... it completely whitewashes the fact that Wlad was already offering Haye more than a standard challenger would get because of what he brings to the table. Haye wants to be paid more than a standard challenger because of what he brings... yet on the other end he wants to keep everything that he brings to the table for himself.

    I think that Haye better smarten up or he is going to end up fighting someone else for A LOT less money and run a big risk of losing to anyone in the top 10 without cashing in against Wlad, or getting a shot at the title. I don't think that Haye is actually excited about the thought of having to prove himself against top contenders in the heavyweight division.
     
  4. TommyV

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    The rematch clause is ridiculous. Haye could spark Wlad twice and then still have to fight him again.

    Plus that **** about having to vacate if he's enforced with a mandatory.

    Shannon the Cannon was right. Wladimir's a *****.
     
  5. Bodysnatcher

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  6. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    I am sure that the rematch clause did not force Haye to beat Wlad 3 times in a row. Haye's manager didn't even say that. People are getting mixed up because he was actually talking about two different rematch options at the same time. The teams were also kicking the idea around of Haye fighting both Klitschkos. Which was also tossed into what Booth said and confused some people. Which would obviously have been if Haye beat Wlad twice, then they could have to where he faces Vitali immediately after that. I really don't see why Haye would have objected to that... that's a mega fight if that were to happen. Haye DID NOT object to that idea, because that would be the logical next step anyways.

    Wlad is going to get this rematch clause set in stone because although I am sure he is confident in victory... anything can happen. He threw the fight together with Corrie Sanders without a rematch clause and Corrie wouldn't get back into the ring with him for anything. You have to protect yourself on the back end in case something unforeseen would take place.

    According to Booth, he didn't have a problem with any of the rematch options... so why are you guys acting like they were unreasonable?
     
  7. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They did have a problem with it, haye shouldn't be forced to fight wlad in a rematch and then vitali straight away and not end up with any titles, how is that a good deal.
     
  8. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    You don't get it do you? The fight becomes A LOT less attractive for Wladimir vs Haye, if Wlad isn't getting anything from what Haye brings to the table. Understand? Haye wants to keep his UK tv rights and money. This forces Wlad to make sure the fight is on terms with Haye's TV deal, and stops Wlad from being able to work out his own deal with the TV network. Also, Haye wants to keep all of the money from the UK tv deal... so how the hell is that more attractive for Wlad? Haye wants to be paid more, have more rights, ticket sales, and still keep everything that he brings to the table. So... how does that fight stay more attractive for Wlad when he isn't even benefiting from what Haye brings?
     
  9. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Lewis got knocked out by Rahman too. What's the point? This is why rematch clauses are important when giving someone a title shot who isn't even a mandatory defense.
     
  10. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lennox was poisoned.Ask jisi
     
  11. TommyV

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    Apparently Wlad was poisoned against Lamon Brewster.
     
  12. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thats what I was making reference to friend:goodMakes sense really:nut:nut