Adamek and Tua training camp under Roger Bloodworth pictures

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  1. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Anyone whose absolutely certain about the outcome of this fight is nothing but a blind nut hugger. Fact is, Adamek's abilities and accomplishements are just as good as Haye's. Sure, Haye seems a bit quicker but let's not forget that was the perception with Cunningham as well and both fighters were exchanging equally quickly. I don't buy the claim that Haye punches harder either because there's nothing to support this. Both men knock top rate opponents out and fail to do so with opponents who have sturdy chins (Haye with Valuev or Adamek with Estrada or Arreola). In the chin department though, Haye is a huge question mark. So again, who ever is certain about who will be the victor here is just a guesser and is not going on any kind of facts.
     
  2. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    oh wow, because thats a completely rational way of looking at things.:-( just because nobody shares your same opinion and doesnt have adameks nuts crammed down their throat doesnt make them "insane" as you claim. i can tell you one thing, if you really watch both of their fights (highly doubt you have which is why you probably come to that conclusion) then saying they fight identical is beyond ridiculous. and adamek barley got by arreola, so to say he'll always beat him is stupid as well.

    its funny that you've repeated this but at the same time you still cant even elaborate on it, pathetic. just keep going in circles in man, im sure you'll be able to pinch out SOMETHING worthy of consideration sooner or later.



    even if adamek has an iron chin what exactly would that mean going against tua? that the beating he'd put on him would be prolonged? its not like he has huge power, blazing speed, or world class defense to keep tua guessing. you're not gonna beat your opponents with your chin man, your punches have gotta do SOME damage. and since adamek cant crack an egg at HW, his punches would be like love taps againt tua. who has a PROVEN soild chin might i add.

    so did dawson when he fought adamek:deal i guess they have something in common after all?

    oh really? a slick southpaw with good defense and good handspeed? what exactly happened when adamek fought someone like that?? yeeeaaa, i thought so.

    and if you like mediocre fighters barely getting passed mediocre opposition then you do he same:hi:
     
  3. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol @ you. Fact is Adamek's career opposition is equal to and probably slightly surpasses David Haye's. Do you really want me to list and compare them? Would you also like me to note the timeline of Haye's HW campaign vs Adamek who has done virtually thesame in half the time? So who is supporting mediocre fighters here? Boy, those comical British tabloids are really fogging up your brain pal.
     
  4. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this is nothing more then a mere ploy to blow up adameks career, now if you wanna talk about sanity any sane persn could see this descrption of arreola is nothing short of laughable. he throws wide looping punches that only morons with non-existent defense (adamek got hit frequently by him) get hit with. vitali beat him like a dime store hooker for that reason alone.
     
  5. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lol, go right ahead man. im not a fan of david haye so ou can say whatever the hell you wanna say about him, im not stopping you. still think he'd beat the **** out of adamek. and again its not because i think highly of haye, its how low i think of adamek.
     
  6. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    1 belt away from making history and the Hall of Fame!!!
     
  7. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Still leaving bitter old fogey's like Lefthook in denial.
     
  8. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he's truly so limited as you claim, how could he beat someone as skilled as Steve Cunningham?
     
  9. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    cunnighman has skills?:huh
     
  10. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Evidently, your manlove of Tua has caused you to watch a different fight than everyone else in the world did. Tua barely did **** in that fight. He's mostly lucky that Friday did even less. Friday definitely was just fighting for the paycheck, but that's about all I agree with you on here. I'll just leave it at that.

    So Ahunanya was never knocked out?

    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:729245

    And whether or not you think Adamek has a great chin, fact is that he's been knocked down all of once in his career, and that was from a body shot, and it's not like he doesn't eat a lot of punches. His chin might not be great for a heavyweight, but it sure isn't bad either. He ate more than enough hard shots from Arreola to prove that, and the only time he was "wobbled" was when the sole of his shoe was falling off.

    And finally, it's nobody's fault but Tua's that he's made stupid business decision after stupid business decision. Fact is the best opponent he's faced in 7 or 8 years is Shane Cameron, who isn't any better than Estrada and is a few levels down from Arreola. If he can do well against a good opponent, then I'll start to believe in Tua again, but from what I see, he's now a shell of what he once was, and even at his best he was still a very limited fighter. Great chin, great power and decent stamina, but that's about it. Throwing 30 punches a round at a punching bag like Friday shows me that the stamina isn't there anymore.
     
  11. BigBopper

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    That's a pretty shocking. I can only assume such a vehement oppinion is because you are either not past puberty or you know your man would get KTFO. Either way you are completely dellusional.
     
  12. diehard

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    Brickhaus, Friday lost to Whitaker from a thumb in the eye, and was stopped by Liak after a headbutt. And he was never knocked down by either of them.

    Does anyone know if Adamek and Tua sparred? Or who Tua is sparring with? He's 4 weeks out from fighting Barrett.
     
  13. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The only thing delusional is people thinking Tua a) was a great fighter b) was much better than Arreola or Peter c) has accomplished more in his OVERALL career than Adamek d) is currently anywhere on the HW radar . Man i have to laugh at the Tua ball sucking despite all the evidence that even in his prime Tua was a one trick poney, just like Arreola and Peter.Furthermore, he did not accomplish significantly more than the latter two. I can understand that he attracts attention for being unique (a short, powerful Samoan man) and that his personal story is somewhat unfortunate and pitiful, but I never mistook that for an A level fighter and neither should anyone with any boxing sense.
     
  14. diehard

    diehard Active Member Full Member

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    Tua whooped 5 world champs, and went the distance against LL. Let me see, what has Peter done? Well, he lost to W. Klit, and quit on his stool with V. Klit. Oh yes, and Chambers beat him. Arreola? Let me see. He also quit on his stool against V. Klit, and was recently beaten by a cruiserweight who is not even a contender yet. Other than that, I'd say you were right. Oh, and he's ranked #2 in the WBO, ahead of Peter and Arreola. But you must remember, I have no boxing sense.
     
  15. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Ah, the cynicism

    Let's see Tua prove you wrong in the ring