Adamek or Kessler: Better Resume Right Now?

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  1. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    These two stand-up European boxers are often compared on ESB. Of the two, who has the better resume right now? Let's compare how they stack up on paper:

    World Titles Won:

    Adamek:


    The Ring 200 lbs
    IBF 200 lbs
    Former WBC 175 lbs

    Kessler:

    WBA 168 lbs
    Former WBC 168 lbs

    Wins over Ring Magazine Top 10 Opposition:

    Adamek:

    Steve Cunningham (21-1) [Ring Mag #1]
    O'Neil Bell (26-2-1)
    Paul Briggs (23-1)
    Thomas Ulrich (28-1)
    Paul Briggs (25-2)

    Kessler:

    Manny Siaca (18-4)
    Anthony Mundine (23-2)
    Markus Beyer (34-2-1)
    Librado Andrade (24-0)


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    Overall, I think Adamek has a convincing edge in resume, as things stand right now.

    Adamek is a two weight champ and has beaten better fighters, IMO. In the years to come, things may well change for both these fighters. Let's get your votes and opinions. :good
     
  2. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Riding your boy Adamek again Axe.

    You are the biggest fan-boy on the site - without any rival.
     
  3. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:

    Says the spambot-hugger alias of deram. Somehow I knew you would be the first to vote in a Kessler thread. Glad to have your vote.

    :hi:
     
  4. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let's hear some arguments for both sides folks, don't just vote and run. :good
     
  5. Quick'N'Slick

    Quick'N'Slick Active Member Full Member

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    Why is this a poll? Who has Kessler ever fought
     
  6. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Not that it matters much, but I'm pretty sure Lucas was also Ring top 10 when he beat him.

    In terms of straight resume, Adamek's is better by a decent margin, in my opinion. But we actually watch the fights as well. I have them both rated right next to each other, in the 16-18 range P4P.
     
  7. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Never seen this once. What a strange and random thought.
     
  8. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Random yes, Strange yes, but Axe lives in a world of his own where everything revolves around Adamek - so if the Super Six is on this automatically involves comparisons between the Super Six boxers and Adamek.

    See the logic? :nut
     
  9. wingchung

    wingchung Active Member Full Member

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    adamak better resume so far. kessler is a better fighter and is n a good tournament.
     
  10. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Adamek had cleaned up HW and had gone up for more competition he would be ahead.

    However, Adamek was chased out of LHW like a rat from a kitchen. After the humiliation to green and unproven Dawson he realized that he could not comptete in this division and he eyed a weaker division and moved up. He has done well so far. But the SMW division is harder than the LHW division (look at Pascal who couldn't compete at SMW), and especially look at how Danny Green was beaten to a pulp by contender Mundine at SMW, he is now in the race at CW. It is simply a refuge division for fighters who couldn't cut it in lower divisions.
     
  11. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Hardly a 'convincing' edge. Looks pretty close on paper.
     
  12. Brickhaus

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    The problem is that back when Kessler was actually fighting decent competition, SMW was much the same. There were big money fighters at middleweight and light heavyweight, and SMW was the division for guys who couldn't "hack it" in one of the money divisions. SMW now is about 10 times better than SMW was back in 2005 - 2007, and if Kessler wins the Super Six, then without question he'll have the better resume. But the guys Kessler has fought since Calzaghe aren't any better than Johnathon Banks.
     
  13. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True, but Kessler has never been run out of a division realizing that he could not defeat. Even if Calzaghe would have stayed Kessler would have loved a rematch and would have believed he could win, especially if it wasn't in Wales and after his hand had surgery. Kessler stayed because it was obvious the division was getting stronger with Ward, Dirrell, and Taylor, Abrahm complaining about weigth issues and so on. Thus, not a division you would seek shelter in and I don't think we can think of many fighters who tried to seek 'shelter' at SMW and suceeded. CW didn't have any signs of getting stronger, rather it had just gotten much weaker with Mormeck aging and Haye leaving a lackluster division. So SMW was a division with growing potential, while CW is a division with diminishing talent and a division for fighters who couldn't;'t cut it elsewhere.

    Adamek was blatantly chased out of town at LHW.
     
  14. Brickhaus

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    Adamek was rumored to struggle with weight for a long time before he moved up. Sure, he probably could have stuck it out a little longer, but it's not like any of the big names were going to face him, and a so-so performance against Dawson was enough motivation to move up. I do think Kessler's performance against Calzaghe was better than Adamek's performance against Dawson.
     
  15. JoeAverage

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    I think it was.

    Calzaghe was p4p no. 1 or 2... Dawson was not even in top 20 and he was a green unproven fighter.

    Kessler fought away and against the biggest outdoor crowd in history!

    So Kessler's opponent was better, more proven and much higher ranked of course than Adamek's opponent.

    The circumstances (Wales, the hype etc.) were far more difficult in Kessler's case than in Adamek's case.

    Ovrall, I think most people would say that it was a greater feat to take a P4P no. 2 to a decision where only 2 rounds scored differently would have resulted in a draw, than it is getting rather thoroughly defeated by a green upcoming unexperienced fighter.

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    Oh, you agreed..... I read it as "Don't think.."

    Well, we agree then ;-)