Adamek vs Klitschko - September

Wlad has called Haye's bluff. It's bad for the fans but good for boxing in the long rund. Assholes must NOT be encouraged.

 

Definitely. But Wlad was doing the same thing Haye was doing before Haye went quiet...Wlad was all over the internet, telly, even in England on Ringside, pretty much begging Haye for the bout. It doesn't make sense to me.

It's as much bull**** as the Mayweather Pacquiao bout. We get a good bout as a replacement, but not the one we want.

 

Agreed but I think Wlad was sick and tired of talking with Haye for the umpteenth time and when the latest obstacles appeared in the last talks, Wlad said screw this, I'm moving on. Assuming Wlad beats Adamek, he will absolutely relish the oppurtunity of having Haye delay his self imposed retirement and make him wait till he's available. Pay day or no pay day (let's face it Wlad is a wealthy man any how) Haye absolutely needs Wlad in order to have any kind of a chance at a legacy and redemption as a HW, cause so far its been a bit of a joke. Wlad already has a legacy.

 

Explain how avoiding the biggest fight in boxing is good for the sport?

It's bad for the fans and helps contribute to boxing being a minority sport. Without exciting fights the sport dies out. Fighting Chisora is also an embarassment he should be ashamed of.

 

Agree with Lolnier & madballster. Haye is the fight everyone wants to see because of him constantly running his mouth off. Whereas Adamek is the fight everyone should want to see because he has been doing more work, more travelling and getting more wins.

Like Lolnier says it's style vs substance, Haye or Adamek. Personaly I'm glad Adamek is getting the opportunity over Haye as he's done alot more at heavyweight to deseve the chance of fighting for the belts. Whereas Haye is where he is mostly due to him running his mouth off.

I'm English by the way, so could everyone please stop labelling us all as delusional, rabid Haye fans. Thanks awfully.:hi:

 

Depends who you ask.

IMO Haye hasn't proven much as a HW to be regarded as a better opponent vs. Wlad then Adamek. A lot of opinions about him as a HW are still based on hype and unknowns. For example, Haye hasn't faced any top hard hitting heavy nor a single fighter regarded to be in the prime (or at least up swing) of his HW career. I suppose you could mention valuev, but that was a horrible fight all around.

 

What is Wlad's legacy? Vitali has a legacy, he had a good fight with Lennox Lewis and then went on to be unbeaten afterwards, but Wlad's legacy is having boring fights and getting brutally beaten by 3 guys who were really beneath him. The most memorable Wlad fights, i'm sorry to say, are Sam Peter, Lamon Brewster and Corrie Sanders, and Ibramigov was memorable just because it was the most boring heavyweight title fight in history. Who else is his defining fight? Calvin Brock? Tony Thompson? Derek Chisora I'm sorry man but Klitschko needs to fight someone who poses a threat to him if he wants to be remembered as a great fighter, methodically beating overmatched opponents is not the way to build a legacy.

Haye might not have had a great run at Heavyweight, but the fights against Ruiz and Barrett were great entertainment, and his cruiserweight fights were superb too. Haye has only been in one boring fight his whole career and that was Nicolay Valuev, and lets be honest who looks good against Valuev? It's impossible to look impressive against that guy.

 

For the record I don't object to the Adamek fight at all, Adamek has just as much right to fight for a title as Haye, it's the Chisora fight that's ****ing stupid. A pointless waste of time that's deprived us of a potentially great fight.

I also think Haye has a better chance of winning than Adamek. Adamek has heart, and he has skill, but he struggled with a shot-to-pieces Michael Grant's size and strength, how is he going to cope with a Klitschko?

 

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Yes sir! It's just so damn tempting, at times. :arran

 

Wlad can pretty much do as he pleases now and it will still be Haye that gets the ****.

 

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You have to ask yourself in what regard Adamek struggled against Grant. The reality is he got buzzed around in a single late round after catching a shot from a very powerful HW. Adamek's mistake but he fought through that tough moment without going down and in the very next round got back to what he was doing all along - dominating every round on points. Adamek seriously won at least 10 rounds of that fight and save for a single round, looked good doing it.

 

Really? I'm very sorry but a fight with yet another overmatched and undersized opponent is not going to capture the imagination of the world is it? I bet they don't even show it in the UK or the USA. Or anywhere other than Germany, Poland and Ukraine.

And I've never read The Sun in my life I wouldn't wipe my arse with that Murdoch-owned tabloid crap. I've watched Haye from the amatuers onwards, and I've seen Adamek from years ago and followed his career with interest, and I tell you this, Adamek is not going to beat Klitschko, he deserves a shot but this is not going to be any different to the Chambers fight, or the Thompson fight or any of Wlad's recent fights. Wlad is fighting a guy who lacks power and is 6 inches shorter than him. Adamek is probably a more skilled fighter, he certainly was at light-heavyweight, but without the power to hurt Wladimir he is going to struggle.

 

I wouldn't say he looked good doing it, he looked petrified of Grant's power, which is understandable coz Grant is a physically impressive guy. He boxed very cautiously I thought, and he got hurt more than once. Against Grant he got away with it coz Grant is shot to pieces, but against Klitschko he will struggle.

Good luck to him, he's a much better fighter than Derek Chisora, and there's really no-one else to fight apart from Povetkin who is also too small and doesn't hit hard enough to have any sort of chance against Wlad.

The only guy I see beating Wlad is Haye, and that's the reason everyone wants to see that fight. Klit fans who hate Haye say otherwise, but those who know boxing know that Haye is the only guy out there with a reasonable chance of beating Wlad.