Adamek vs Klitschko - September

After what Haye's been doing for the past two years, he is not entitled to have a huge retirement pay day on his terms. This clown should just shut up, accept that Wlad wants an interim fight and have a mandatory defense vs Chagaev himself or retire right away. It's all FAIR but runs counter to Haye's financial plans. Boxing is the least concern for him therefore his ridiculous demands MUST be ignored, which is exactly what Wlad has done. He's moved on, set up a fight with Adamek and left the con artist Haye farting in the puddle.

And I actually expect Chisora to deliver a good performance, he fits into a 'troublemaker' profile of Wlad's previous opponents. More so than Haye actually.

 

well, he also stunk up the joint vs. Harrison in a pretty suspicious looking fight. Look, Wlad's domination of the HW division for nearly a decade is well documented and established. Weak decade or not,boring or not so boring, Wlad has fought them all as a champ and won. Haye is nowhere near Wlad's accomplishments, even taking into account his CW career. This is why he needs to fight Wlad or Vitaly badly and you know it.

 

Apolgies if it sounds like I was addressing you in particular, I wasn't refering to you specifically, but there is an unfortuate situation where alot of people on Hayes side will be taking everything The Sun says as gospel.

 

Based on what? I feel a lot of your confidence is based on unproven speculation, reminding me somewhat of the speculation and certainty surrounding Dawson's career. Haye has not done enough as a HW to gain this kind of respect and he certainly has more proven liabilities than Dawson.

 

Looks like Haye dug his own grave by only allowing the big risky fights against the Klitschkos in the very last few months of his career before his self-imposed retirement.

Lewis had to wait seven years to make the Tyson fight happen.What is this sense of historic urgency now for Haye? Haye wasted all of 2010 fighting nobodies like Ruiz and Harrison and now the big fights are so terrible urgent because he has to retire over night? He couldn't foresee that it may be difficult to arrange half a dozen promoters and TV stations to agree on a single "take it or leave it" date right before his retirement?

Please...

 

you know ZERO about boxing. Chisora is ****ing useless. Get off Klitschko's **** you're ruining the debate, only a deluded fanboy of the highest order would celebrate this fight falling apart.

This sort of **** is the reason boxing is a dying sport, and you are so petty and tribalistic that you cheerlead it, you celebrate the fact that the biggest fight, the one fight which could win new fans over the sport, has been ****ed up by Wlad's ridiculous bull****. So what if Haye retires without getting a Klitschko fight? That doesn't mean Klitschko's won any moral debate, it just means we've been screwed out of a decent fight and boxing is one step closer to dying out.

Oh yeah Harrison, boring but at least Haye got it over with in 3 rounds and gave us a hilarious knockout. I'd rather watch the Harrison fight than watch Wlad - Ibragimov or Wlad - Chagaev.

And in terms of resume you're right, Haye's can't compete with Wladimir, but y'know what, Wlad will always have "David Haye would've beaten you" hanging over his head. He'll retire with "why did you never fight David Haye" over him because none of his other opponents are worth a damn really, which is why his most memorable fights are ones where he was beaten. There's plenty of people out there who think that, Haye has speed and power to **** Wlad up.

I'm sorry but I'm going to remember Wlad Klitschko for being the guy, despite being talented, who presiding over the weakest era in Heavyweight boxing and helped contribute to the sport being marginalized and ignored. You might think he's awesome, but for me he's a gravedigger for Heavyweight boxing.

 

Erm, based on watching his fights and seeing him knock people out for fun. No-one in the heavyweight division has his mixture of speed, aggression and power, and they are the three things Wlad just can't handle. Wlad has no defense, his defense is the jab and to clinch, against Haye he will take big shots and get dragged into a war which will test his heart. These are the sorts of fights I want to see.

It could go either way, they're both massive punchers, that's why it's so important to mak the fight.

Also, Haye didn't just beat Ruiz did he, he destroyed him. Utterly broke him down and beat him up in a more sustained and brutal way than anyone else. He did the same with Barrett, he didn't just beat him he smashed him to pieces.

 

Yes in the UK people will say that. But outside of the UK Haye is completely unknown to the casual fan plus he is widely disrespected as a trash talker with a very weak HW resume.

If this is how the Wlad - Haye saga ends then nobody outside of the UK will even remember Haye in 5 years. Nobody outside of the UK will ever ask "Why didn't Wlad fight Haye".

And if they did they'd look up Haye's resume and they'd see that he has a padded HW record of fighting over-the-hill, near 40 year old hand-picked nobodies that just came to pick up a mercy paycheck.

 

So you're saying he beat up 38 year old, over-the-hill fighters and he is to be lauded for doing so? Wow.

Just like Vitali beat up a near 40 year old bum version of Shannon Briggs and sent him to hospital? I feel pity for the Klitschko fans who were celebrating how Vitali beat up a shot Briggs. They're just as dumb as you recounting Haye's HW fights against old bums as memorable classics.

 

Words, you're a fool who thinks that he's got a direct access to God's 'truth' channel. Everything is a matter of personal opinions in the subject of our discussion. But there are certain fact that should be the basis of them. Re-watch Haye vs Valuev fight, it should give you a proxy of how Haye really stacks up vs Wlad, the rest is a wishful thinking speculation on your part.

 

Hang on a second, I'm not saying that Ruiz was some sort of great fighter, he wasn't, but at least the fight was exciting! At least people got their money's worth. The Shannon Briggs fight was dull as ****, Briggs barely did anything. Vitali is generally a more aggressive fighter than Wlad, but compared to Haye they're both pretty boring.

John Ruiz was over the hill, but at least we got a good night's entertainment out of that fight, which is more than can be said about Wlad's snooze-fests.

 

why not July 2nd???

 

Because it's too close to the Chisora fight to get a full training camp and promotion in. You don't think he was seriously going to fight Haye 8 weeks after Chisora right??? It was always going to be in september, and now it's been called off it looks like he's fighting Adamek instead on that date.

 

You're self-deluding yourself claiming this. I found nothing exciting in that fight. Why? Because I'm not emotionally attached to Haye, just like you to Klitschko. Now tell me if you have had any other memorable moments with Haye for the past two years? Anything?

 

5 knockdowns? one after 30 seconds? Watching John Ruiz gamely keep trying to march Haye down despite taking huge bombs??

If you would rather watch Wlad go "jab jab clinch" for 10 years against guys 6 inches shorter than him instead of that then I pity you. You're missing out soo much!