Adamek without Gmitruk against Arreola!!!

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  1. turbina

    turbina Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yea.. we all remember how that worked out.. Guy can barely even speak Polish anymore.
     
  2. MyStyle

    MyStyle Active Member Full Member

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  3. Ilesey

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    Not brilliant for Adamke but if he has any dream of fighting for a championship, he will have to deal with this as best he can and make arrangements to be best prepared for Arreola.
     
  4. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I will go ahead and speculate that Gmitruk's absence will have nothing to do with his health. Timezones? Cmon give me a break. There's no healthcare in America? Its well known Gmitruk and Rozalski don't get along, because of money issues and this could be a nice, quiet way for him to bow out before a big fight. Not good news for Adamek. Him and Gmitruk have a special relationship and Gmitruk is essentially Adamek's brain in the ring. I don't know how he and Roger will even communicate. Mark my words, this is all Rozalski's doing.
     
  5. turbina

    turbina Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That is kind of what I'm thinking too. If Gmitruk continues training guys in Poland, then I guess we will know. It's not like he spends a serious amount of time with Adamek in the U.S anyways. He came what... 1 month prior for the Estrada fight, or 3 weeks was it? It's only and 8 hour flight, and a change in time once in a while.. not like he does it every other day. Either way it sucks.

    Adamek went to say that it is stricktly health related, and anybody who would think otherwise of them doesnt respect both of them. Which I think is a bs statement too. Theres a lot of reason to employ that method of thinking.
     
  6. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think its plausible that Gmitruk would voluntarily leave his biggest fighter (by far) in the most important moment of his career, simply because his doctors are telling him to take it easy and cut travel time. All I know is Adamek fought like **** without him and that he follows Gmitruk's instructions to the letter in every fight - so he trusts his judgment.
     
  7. manhattanboxer3

    manhattanboxer3 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    jeez whos gonna stick the needles in his butt now
     
  8. funkykoval

    funkykoval Active Member Full Member

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    thats exactly what I'm thinking

    talking about traveling problems is bull****, you can always fly first to London, take a one day off, then to NY, and the air is the same in Poland and US

    if you have heart problems you need to start taking care of what you eat especially, maybe take some medicine if its serious

    and Adamek is too old to learn to fight in a american way, thats why he need trainer who knows his good things and bad things and can prepair the best tactics to his abilities, not trying to make him fight not his way as McGirt did
     
  9. Wiesiek

    Wiesiek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Its Obvious , its ziggy who wants to be nr2 right behind adamek , he wants to shine to give interviews etc and he has to get rid of gmitruk to do that, he didnt even allow gmitruks fighters to show up on adamek-estrada undercard.
     
  10. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    If Adamek stands and trade, this will not last too long. If Adamek moves and avoid flush shots, then he can win.

    Do you seriously think Adamek is going for a KO? VK couldn't KO Arreola. Arreola's corner just realised it was a no hoper.
     
  11. Wiesiek

    Wiesiek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think adamek can put him down with his counter right , vitali didnt go for ko nor did he counter arreola he just boxed in & out and didnt allow chris to throw any punches , arreola's been hurt by mccline and walker who re not considered as harder punchers than vitali, adamek is accurate and has great timing so he can put him down catching off balance open while attacking ,i dont think he will ko him tho , maybe tko if arreola gets tired late in the fight.
     
  12. turbina

    turbina Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whatever it comes down to it is bad news for Adamek. If Rozalski is being greedy then it can only back fire on him by taking Adameks life long trainer away from him. Because the more I think about it the less I think it has to do with Gmitruks health... especially if Gmitruk goes on to train his other fighters..
     
  13. SviRu

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    Ronnie Shields said that they will make Adamek loose weight. They want speed from Tomasz. They want Chris to fire and miss. This is good. I like the idea.
     
  14. turbina

    turbina Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This was the idea all along. In a recent interview with Gmitruk he said Adamek shouldnt be weighing in no more then 215.
     
  15. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think TA's slugishness against Estrada, was a natural consequence of gaining the mass. Once you gain mass (with inevitably some fat), you've got to condition it and keep the quality gains. I don't expect for TA to be 215lbs, because that would take him back to Golota weight, basically admitting the subsequent weight gain was a mistake. I expect Tomasz to be a much more fit and conidtioned around 220lbs. If TA wants to exchange with Arreola, don't think for a second that Arreola can't hit the canvas. The fight against Vitali is no indicator as Klitchsko was very conservative with Arreola, basically hitting with single punches, mostly jabs. Look at the fight against Walker (who couldn't KO Estrada by the way) as a better indicator of Arreola's chin. Its an average chin. Futhermore, with Chrs' wide, flailing, undisciplined punches, its an open chin.