Add Steward to growing list of people against the catchweight king

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by PBFred, Aug 26, 2010.


  1. di tullio

    di tullio Guest

    I believe he lost a title that way.
     
  2. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    No nobody has ever been able to confirm them.

    They don't pass the smell test, certainly in the case of De La Hoya and Hatton. So DLH had a better than 60/40 purse split with Pacquiao, but Pacquiao somehow had enough leverage to insert a rehydration clause? Hatton and Pacquiao bitched forever about purse split, eventually ending somewhere around 50/50, but Hatton agreed to come to the ring at a weight that he'd never fought at before, despite always having to dehydrate about ten pounds for a weigh-in. That sounds pretty nuts. Neither of them needed the money, neither were getting career high paydays, both could have got the same sort of case against other opponents.
     
  3. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Oh yeah, 'never' might have been a misstatement. Dammit, this ***** meme that Pacquiao's career started when he fought David Diaz is catching...
     
  4. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Oh wait, I missed the most compelling evidence against there having been a rehydration clause for Pacquiao/Hatton.

    You do remember who Hatton's trainer was for that fight? Don't you just think he might have mentioned it since.....?
     
  5. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    Explain yourself, as you only seem to hide behind sarcasm and try to create the illusion of a riddle.

    Fact is the old great fighters no longer feel relevan in the sport and every top athlete discredit the sport that made them successful in, this goes from football to basket ball and more importantly boxing.:good

    Anyone who cant see the trend is frankly braindead.:hi:
     
  6. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Agreed, Oscar would have told emmanuel to go kill himself if he was demanding that kind of dumb ****. Cotto on the other hand was treated in a disgraceful manner during their negotiations and is under Top Rank.
     
  7. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    wow...thats quite a long list of respected individuals in the boxing community.
     
  8. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Exactly. If these rumours were true, the respective trainers/fighters would have raised the issue...
    • Nacho says weight weren't even an issue, and that the little Filipino was just too good on the night. Oscar meanwhile does say he was past his best. But nothing about a rehydration clause
    • Floyd Senior instead invents steroid rumours to discredit Pac's win over Hatton, not a supposed rehydration clause
    • Cotto and his team agreed to a 145 catchweight fight, but made a big issue out of putting a title on the line. You would have at least expected them to also voice their concerns over a rehydration clause if there ever was one.
     
  9. El Intocable

    El Intocable Guest

    You're as unbiased as Ellerbe when it comes to anything fraud related.
     
  10. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was trying to be funny.

    Soooorrrry.
     
  11. left right left

    left right left Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No way, spud1. On this thread, everything I have put out has been above board. Just drop the veil off of your face, or go back and read my first post again, maybe. 'Nothing hidden about it. Look, here's the deal, I don't care what Steward says about Pacquiao. He long ago showed me that he's biased against Pacquiao. Point blank- If Mayweather puts his feet in time with his mouth and goes at Pacquiao, he'll get KTFO. Nothing personal to you, spud1, you seem OK to me. I'm just saying, Mayweather would get KTFO vs Pacquiao.
     
  12. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    No hard feelings:good

    mayweather tko 10
     
  13. Emeritus

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    Can you tell me where your source is for this because I have heard this before but I had assumed it was fake.

    I've never heard of another fighter doing that before?
     
  14. left right left

    left right left Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dig it. I forgot to mention, though, Floyd knows as well as I do that Pacquiao will KTFO him and THAT's why he stalls, hems and haws.:rastaPeace out Brother
     
  15. Above Deck

    Above Deck Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac only taints his own legacy.

    What is considered all good and well at present - most likely wont be
    thought of the same later down the track.

    I dare say that critics of Pac will be quick to point out the catchweight
    issue - throw in the unwillingness to take a simple needle and theres
    definately going to be a lot of grey areas regarding Pac.

    Will be hard to place the guy in ATG lists.

    If Pac did care about his legacy, he'd be fighting Mayweather, erase all doubt.

    I think Catchweights become a joke when say Pac fights Cotto at 145
    for the weightweight title - which is a 147 title.
    Pacs fans like to put a positive spin on it and that might get by atm,
    but in due time it will be seen for what it is.