Adonis Stevenson is fighting Tony Karpency

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Styles make fights, and you can have a bad night. I also didnt think he outboxed him I had the fight pretty much even, again cafe you need to learn how to read. I said the JUDGES had Karpency up. :patsch:patsch

    Bute fought scared for 2/3 of the fight, the last 1/3 he was fighting back, and even had Pascal on the back foot trapped in the corner. If you really watch Pascal tell me what is his biggest weakness? It's an incredibly obvious one so dont think of this as a trick question. Fonfara UD's Pascal. Of course it's competitive though/

    Now BHOp can definitely outbox Fonfara. But again fathertime has finally gotten to him, he's look worse and worse every fight from Tavoris Cloud, to Murat, to Shumenov. At this point of his career I'd pick Fonfara, coming off Cloud I'd pick Bhop.

    The fact that you think Fonfara has no chance against Pascal/Bhop really makes me question your boxing knowledge. YOu're either trying extremely hard to discredit Stevenson, or you're terrible at making picks. Looking at your v cash it's either both or you're just bad at gauging fights.
     
  2. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Bute started fighting back in like round 12, by that time Pascal was so gassed he barely threw any punches. I didn't see the Karpency fight, I've no idea whether he was outboxed or not, I assumed you were in agreement with the judges since you mentioned it.

    I didn't say I give him absolutely 0 chance to win, that's silly of course he has a chance. Would I have him as a favourite or pick him to win? No.

    And it's funny you say I'm trying to discredit Stevenson, because I think you're doing the exact opposite. What a coincidence!
     
  3. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    And who cares about freaking vCash, I've had 7k before, I've had 0 before. The reason I have below 500 is because I stopped betting for a while, dropped 40 on some guy and haven't betted since.
     
  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    No Bute started fighting back in the last 3-4 rounds, it was just in round 12 that he had Pascal in the corner. Also answer my question, what is Pascal's biggest weakness? I don't believe you've seen many Pascal fights to even attempt to make an accurate assessment if you dont know this, it's really obvious.

    Yeah but you're saying that there's a slim chance of him winning right? What would you give Fonfara? I'd say Fonfara/Pascal is 70/30 in favor of Fonfara, and Fonfara/Bhop is 60/40 in Fonfara's favor.

    I'm not trying to discredit Kovalev which is why I'm saying Fonfara vs Pascal/Bhop is competitive and I'm not saying dumb **** like, Fonfara vs Pascal KO even though Pascal hasn't had a knockout against a top contender in ages, and Fonfara survived Stevenson a FAR harder hitter.
     
  5. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    sure that's what they all say :lol:. when I lost all my vcash, I kept my mouth shut and got it back of 2k in like a month in a half. easy work.
     
  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    [YT]U5iTVftZWao[/YT]
    Round 9
    6:40-end of round, BUte gets Pascal on ropes is the only one that lands punches, Pascal goes to corner, and Bute again lands punches in bunches, fighting scared? no way.

    round 10
    from 10:00 mins-end of vid. Bute clearly the aggresor while Pascal is moving and jsut waiting to counter

    round 11
    [YT]rQAk5PhiPbI[/YT]
    from 2:50 has Pascal in the corner and is the only one throwing punches.

    and you know the rest of the story.
     
  7. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    I'd give Fonfara about 35%-40% on each. I still wouldn't pick him against either.

    What's Pascal's biggest weakness? Poor footwork? Poor defense? Poor stamina? ****py ring IQ? Pick whichever, I'm not going to name one specific one when the guy has quite a few and it's your opinion anyways.

    Yes I know Stevenson hits hard, but I actually thought that it was miraculous the fight went 12 rounds, we're going in cricles now but Stevenson was hitting him with power shots early on and had him hurt on pretty much every left he threw, after about 5th or 6th Stevenson gassed completely, the momentum switched and Fonfara managed to go full 12.

    But even to this day I'm still surprised Fonfara managed to pull through those early rounds, it wasn't really a testatement to how good his chin is more than his heart IMO.
     
  8. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    I'm off to bed now though, it's late (early) here.
     
  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's very very simple. He fights in spurts. He spends many rounds doing jack **** which is why Fonfara will steal many rounds from him. This is why I'd clearly favor Fonfara in a competitive match up with Pascal. I also highly doubt you think you give fonfara 35-40% chance, you'Re just saying that now. The way you put it you gave him 10-20% chance at max.

    And you proved my point exactly, if Fonfara can survive Stevenson he can survive someone with worse stamina that doesn't hit as hard and a guy who fights in spurts in Pascal.
     
  10. moparfan

    moparfan ESB's glass jawed fraud Full Member

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    But Mohammedi beat Tomas Adamek...!!! :D
     
  11. Dos Huevos

    Dos Huevos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who's a bigger h.o.m.o, Ellerbe or Cafe?
     
  12. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    nice v cash sir :hi:
     
  13. DrunkHenryHill

    DrunkHenryHill New Member Full Member

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    He fought a guy named Mike McFail with 44 losses, :rofl
     
  14. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I loved you on Howard Stern, Henry:good
     
  15. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    lol couldnt understand a word he was saying when he was drunk :lol:.