Adonis Stevenson vs. Bernard Hopkins

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    This was supposed to happen, remember? Actually for three years running now the match-up has been hinted at heavily by multiple parties, including the combatants themselves along with promoters & networks.

    The original face to face meeting where they discussed a possible showdown, on June 21st of 2013 and took some photos together with a short face-off:
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    There was buzz anew the following year when Stevenson left HBO for Showtime after signing with Al Haymon, leaving the proposed Kovalev match-up on HBO in tatters. Hopkins was then campaigning on Showtime's airwaves (he fought both Murat and Shumenov on Showtime). Ultimately nothing came of it, with Stevenson defending his title from Sakio Bika and Tommy Karpency and Hopkins actually returning to HBO to unsuccessfully challenge Kovalev.

    Then, most of the 50-year-old legend's 2015 was spent vacillating between calling out retired super middleweight Carl Froch, and rekindling his desire for a clash with Stevenson.

    This has been so long in the making, and makes sense for everybody involved. Hopkins insists he isn't going out with an L and wants his farewell bout to be versus a big name and ideally for a belt. Stevenson, meanwhile, needs an injection of credibility in his reign. Even if he doesn't match Kovalev's shutout performance for direct comparison bragging rights, just having the name Hopkins on his resume would greatly enhance it.

    Can the cagey future Hall of Fame inductee nullify the power and movement of the WBC light heavyweight champion with his savvy, roughness, and 2" height advantage to ride off into the sunset with the green belt, or will the champion exploit Hopkins' occasional difficulties with southpaws (as seen most prominently with Dawson and Calzaghe, and to a lesser extent Wright, Vanderpool, and Jackson in the early going...but obviously not with Allen, Tarver, Holmes, or Daniels) and outbox him like Kovalev or even one-up the Russian with a stoppage of the now quinquagenarian? :think
     
  2. Super Hans

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    Faded Joe Calzaghe victim Hopkins takes Stevenson into deep waters and drowns him in the 5th.
     
  3. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Hopkins takes way the left he wins. Stevenson can't outbox him. Hopkins outfoxes him to a close but clear UD.
     
  4. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Hopkins is an old ass man. He is living in a time that forgot about him and he wants to be more important than he really is.
    He is jealous of any Black fighter that is more popular than him and always has some side ways **** to say.
    Adonis would have done him worse than Kovalev did. All Hopkins has been doing is protecting Oscar who could give a **** less about Bernard. Stupid mutha****a.
     
  5. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    While Hopkins is aging rapidly he still has a style that ages better than Stevensons. Stevenson relies on athleticism, speed. Once that goes he's finished. He's pushing 40 as well.
     
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  6. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Bernard Hopkins is perhaps the best fighter you have ever had the priviledge to see. What he's earned in his career he's had to fight for no one gave him anything. Add to this he was robbed of wins against Calzaghe & Taylor TWICE.
    In 2013 Bernard would have schooled Stevenson just like he did
    Pavlik & Trinidad. The way to see Nard at his best was tell him he could not do something Then watch him go do it
    Only one thing you cannot beat is Old Father Time Bernard cannot go on for ever. I hope he changes his mind & does not fight again he has nothing left to prove he is a bona fide ATG:happy:happy:happy
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    At this point it pretty much has to be this or we don't see Hopkins again, I'm guessing? He clearly isn't getting Froch.
     
  8. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Today? I'll go with Stevenson. But I think Hopkins has some tricks up his sleeve to make this fight unusually competitive.
     
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  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I find it a really fascinating match-up in 2016, given all factors. (Hopkins cresting over the hill of 50, losing every minute to Kovalev and then having a sizable layoff weighed against Stevenson looking anything but immortal facing subpar challengers of late, all going along with the fact that it always had "interesting puzzle" written all over it due to styles and respective attributes. Hopins was caught at the end of some left hand leads on the outside pretty regularly in the Dawson rematch - what happens if the far more powerful Stevenson lands those repeatedly? Does he make a dent in that aging iron ATG chin and put some wobble in those extremely well-conditioned but still 50-year-old legs? Can the Executioner, whose punch was most potent at MW and whose power at LHW is negligible though not altogether feathery, use his wits and negativity to grind his way inside and lay enough hits - legal and otherwise - on Stevenson to rupture his tissue paper chin?)
     
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  10. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pretty much this. Hopkins has been nothing but smoke and mirrors for a few years now. Even though I don't like Hopkins, I have no desire to see him get badly hurt in the ring. For his sake, I hope he retires.
     
  11. StealthUppercut

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    Stevenson is exactly the sort of fighter who Hopkins thrives against - flawed boxing skills which are usually compensated by athleticism and power.
     
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  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    All true but one thing he can do is circle and work or time-waste from outside without tiring. Hopkins prefers to do his work up close and has struggled historically with movement, especially from southpaws.

    ...and he's now 50, and let Kovalev (not first and foremost a boxer) outbox him.
     
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  13. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Right now I think Stevenson stops him, Hopkins has problems with good movers and guys his size, Stevenson is shorter but very stocky and great power to boot. His body shots are brutal, ask Fonfara.
     
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  14. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Tell you what, I think Oscar would love for Canelo to face Jacobs rather than GGG :yep
     
  15. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd have to go with Stevenson at this point in time and space. By decision, as I think Hopkins has enough savvy and enough left in the tank to do that.