Adrien Broner vs. Marcos Rene Maidana & Leo Santa Cruz vs. Cesar Seda RBR

I think the wring weight and the wrong fighter cost Broner the fight. He was ambitious and had belief in himself but sometimes you can shoot for the stars on come up short. He took a gamble and lost. He can bounce back maybe at 140 or against a light hitting welterweight.

 

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What part of history? WHen they made weight the same day? Those guys were the real welter weight. So don't give me this BS about what a welter weight should look like.

 

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Broner is a pocket fighter. He's got Floyd qualities but he has a different style based on his power. Floyd is more mobile because he has to be based on his lack of power and problems with his hands. Broner was use to being bigger and could muscle his opponents around fighting in the pocket.....but he was mugged by a physically more powerful man and as the saying goes......styles make fights......good big man beats a good small man...ect.

 

Alot of guys can make the weight. If cotto fights martinez is cotto a real middleweight?

 

Broner has the natural talent and athleticism to make it. But stupid tactics and several technical flaws will keep him from reaching his potential. The only question is, is he man enough to admit he was wrong and go back to the drawing board, perhaps switch camps and come back a totally changed fighter? I don't know if he has that in him as he seems far too arrogant for that...

 

I don't think he has been hit as hard as Maidana cracked him. As soon as he got smacked in the first his whole fight strategy went bye bye. You could see it in his eyes.

 

lols.. good job genius your esoteric insight was correct, you magically saw Broner winner in a fight he was getting embarrassed in. I will look to you for future insights.

 

I think Broner tries to be a "pocket fighter" but he lacks the skills necessary to pull it off, Toney he aint. He was never going to beat Maidana up by standing straight infront of him and allowing Maidana to swing for the fences. But maybe he was deluded enough to think he had enough power and speed to make it work. Clearly he doesnt.

 

if Cotto can no longer make the 147 and decides to move up to 154 then he is a middleweight. Boxing weight class isn't about look. A fighters know when it is time to move up if they couldn’t fight in their weight-class anymore. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

You brought up history. Apparently you don't know **** beyond 20 years. Fighters from as far back as the 60s,in all the weight-classes, don’t look as big as those in the weight-classes today. There is no look. That's the point. It is whatever the majority of what the current fighters are weighing in at and as of right now your so call "smaller guys" dominate the welter weight. Therefore making Broner a perfect fit.

 

Yeah man actually I was very surprised he got up from that first left hook knockdown. Thought he was done. Next round he seemed to recover pretty well, but then again who knows what went on in his head after being dropped for the first time as a pro, but I agree there didn't seem to be much method to his work out there tonight - he was all over the place.

 

No one was as good as james in the pocket......maybe Pep or the old mongoose but Broner is good in the pocket. He can get better of course but the physical disadvantage was big in this one. And of course the stylistic match up favored the pressure fighter in this instance because broner likes a much slower pace. And yea.....broner was a lil overconfident.

 

got it...so even though fighter moving up an is clearly the smaller man that makes them legit at the weight.:roll: These guys who are at welter (pac,juan, tim, floyd, paulie etc arent there because they cant make a lower weight. Its because of money.

I guees dlh was a middleweight when fought hopkins as well:roll:

spare me with the bs. Dont even need to go back that far, take the early 2000's welters, spinks, mayorga, forrest, trinidad, dlh, quartey, shane etc...those are real welters, broner's size is no where near that.

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:rofl:rofl:rofl real welter. You have yet to even pin down what a "real" welter is. Multiple pages of people laughing at you and you just add more for them to laugh.

To say Broner isn't a real Welter :rofl:rofl