Advantages/Disadvantages of peek-a-boo style?

I'll be sure to give it a try the next time i lace em on. lead with some hooks , sit on the ropes, start cripwalking etc etc should work out pretty well i guess

edit: my teacher teaches this style; i'm short and stocky so it works for me etc etc

edit 2: lol opiates.

 

Advantages:
Elusive , the fighter is very hard to hit in the head and even if it is possible the positioning of the gloves makes it hard to land on the chin.

Bobbing and weaving , furthers the extent of elusiveness. The movement gains momentum adding to explosive power .

The movement makes it much easier to land combos .

Disadvantages.

You need to have great stamina to achieve this effectively over 12 round.

Without speed the fighter is very easy to hit and can not land punches effectively.

There is no real way of going onto the back foot so without an ATG chin fighting some one with huge one punch power is dangerous although this is usually true for all come forwards fighters and swarmers with out a great chin.

Body punching is often relatively easy this can wear down even a high stamina fighter. In the later rounds hands may start to fall due to lack of stamina then what is left , no way to go on the back foot or stand and box , the fighter is left looking for one big punch.

 

:good you´ve got to be tremendously conditioned and you need the will to go through with that despite your body telling you not to.

A thought something like that

Yes they are very similar. the main difference IMO is that the bob´n´weave is more fluid and rythmic while the peek-a-boo is more explosive and erratic. I think due to the fluidity and rythmic character of the bob´n´weave you have a slightly lower energy expenditure. But see which fighters were successful with it. Small hws who trained for stamina, not for strength and bulk.

 

No doubt. There's a reason you see a lot more bob n' weave pressure stylists than peek-a-boo stylists throughout history.

 

One of the drawbacks is that it is a 2 step only forward offense. Go forward on left foot and then step in while throwing a punch. Trying an odd numbered step count squares you up. And during that timeframe of the peekaboo on the outside, the opponent can turn him & get over to 10 or 2 o'clock.There is a window for that. And it works very poorly if the guy with the peekaboo is backing up and the footwork problems become magnified.



The dip left dip right and then spring up with a punch is predictable. It's usually on a count and seldom off the first dip. And punches are supposed to come out off that dip when low. What this predictability does is leave windows for the upper echelon opponents. Like say Liston--Patterson. Sonny threw punches where Floyd was moving into them and going to be and not at Floyd, per se.

The peekaboo is much more effective as a counter off a missed punch and then quickly step in with both hands. Quick hands are a requirement afterall. When that does not work against certain opponents--who have to have the tools to exploit it, that style becomes kind of a fatal flaw. Top shelf quick reflexes and a high workrate are requirements.

Like mentioned previously, it is open up the middle to uppercuts.

 

for the duration of the peek-a, you are effectively blind.

 

Nah, if done right you look over the gloves.

 

One thing i didnt put on my post was longativity . It dosent suit realy set you up for a good 10-15 year carer.

 

Floyd Patterson and Mike Tyson would disagree with you.

 

i dunno, i think it's more of the people who choose the style (which kinda lead to the question do you choose your style or do you find it yourself?) tyson burnt out pretty quickly but stayed in the game for a while and was successful, Patterson broke out of it at times and used a more 'textbook' approach, torres retired early anyways, kevin rooney well he wasn't a great fighter very decent skill set but he wasn't going to get too far in the end.....think you can go far. it's a very physical style and can cause injury's before fights that can derail you but still it's not a burnout style if there was one





main disadvantages are (for me anyways) ;
very upright. you can get low but you are not as effective and lose the overpowering advantages of having your whole body weight so close.

your punch variations are limited with very few angles to trick people with

back-pedalling is precarious and can be a big danger which leads to also that you cant walk out or not engage. if your tired or hurt your gonna have to fight.

 

Patterson is a better example, Tyson showed pretty conclusively that he wasn't able to maintain this style for a significant period of time in its true form.

strongly disagree, if anything the number of different punches you can throw out of this style is very very large, especially hooks and uppercuts. This style's biggest problem as far as punch variety IMO are throwing straight punches. having a truly effective jab in this stance is difficult

 

WTF do you mean burnt out??
I know Manny-S says Tyson got worse cos of ageing - BUT did he EVER look better then here???

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teh 1st fight he looked what IMO counts as Past-prime[less then 90%]] was VS Botha in 1999 and evan then he still looked 85% of his Best yrs.

 

V.True m8. :thumbsup

It was v.easy to land body punches on Tyson cos peek-a-boo leavs teh body v.open to hit. E.G - For Tyson started with v.high hands VS Douglas And he was throwing lots of multi-punch combos - BUT in round 9 teh body punching Douglas did to teh open-body made his hands fall right down And he was forced to look for one big haymaker And stop doing his famous combos what he was doing for teh 1st 8 Roundz when he had enough stamina to keep his hands-up And throw combos.

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The biggest disadvantage is that it forces the fighter to throw wide punches. The gloves in front are part of the defense which includes a lot of head and upper body movement, but it takes a fighter with a lot of speed and coordination to carry it out. Power also helps a lot.
Weve seen fighters like Patterson and Tyson very successful with it, but fighters like Rooney, Sheika and Paz were somewhat ordinary in comparison.

 

yeah your right should of read wrote that part, i think i meant to say that your combos have far more variations but less of a 'surprise' aspect to them. the punches you have thrown are the same ones you did before.
i dont know how to explain it but like...you know your going to expect hooks and uppercuts when he gets in so by that you are prepared for it. i know that seems to dumb but meh.




also something, the style is very timeable. putting your head and most of the weight on one side then to the other to do the weaving effect before your in range makes you expose rhythm. so for an example when a peek-a-choo fighter comes in with his left leaning to his left you know he will move to the right. so a 1-2 will make him slip the jab then walk into cross. of course depends how quick they are, but i seen it a lot.
guy comes in with mike tyson wannabe fighting tactics goes in the ring and leans too heavy onto one side and when he starts swinging back he will fall into a right cross