Advice for getting in shape before consistent training?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Bogotazo, Jul 16, 2010.


  1. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Hey guys. I'm joining a new gym and did a free trail to see what the coach and program were like. Before, a friend who had been training as an Amateur for years was working with me to teach me the fundamentals and iron out bad habits as we went along; he's what you might call a fascist when it came to proper technique. After working with him for almost a year I decided I wanted to try and compete Amateur after joining a gym and receiving more consistent training with more available resources than my University's crap heavy and speed bags.

    When I tried out the program, however, I found that the workout the coach had us do kicked my ass harder than anything ever before. Along with two other people who I concluded were probably regulars, I did the same exercises one after the other and was ready to die.

    Now, training for boxing is hard as **** and I expect to get my ass kicked every time I go to the gym with no breaks or sissy sympathy. What I do not want, however, is for my training and performance to be impaired by not being in shape enough to jump into a consistent training groove. I was sore 3 days after and figure before I return to start my actual registered period of training, I might try and get fit so that by the time I am done with a workout routine, I'm not completely drained or too stiff/sore and drop my hands and swing my punches on the bag or in sparring.

    I was wondering if you guys could help with any advice, if this is simply normal, or if I should try and do something basic before I go back in about ten days. I was thinking I should run more consistently and try to amp up my water intake. Any and all recommendations are much appreciated.
     
  2. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Long slow distance work. The workout prescribes by the trainer is not suitable for your fitness level and will do more harm then good. It makes me laugh that coaches feel the need to do that. Its stupid. Why train that hard initially anyway you should be learning technique- not trying to peak fitness wise.
     
  3. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    I'm training tonight and I'm still hurting from Wednesday. Your body will adapt, make sure you warm down after training and eat loads of protein
     
  4. SILVIO_DANTE

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    run or swim for 30-40 minutes at a time every other day

    running is particularly boring, and really hard to start doing when you're not in the habit of it, but run every other day for 2 weeks and you'll notice the difference is incredible and you have far more stamina for your boxing
     
  5. wesrman

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  6. MrSmall

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    You can't.
    Without consistency results will be few and far between!
     
  7. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When training working to excess isnt a good idea. Its no good for the nueromuscular system,muscle and those little nuerons work on memory. To many bad memorys to soon, they will stop working as you want them too. Their pscyhcodynamics will stop the engine between the ears from accepting the signals and shut down in protest :nono
     
  8. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    What do you consider excessive Scrap? High heart rate, duration or both??
     
  9. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jeff, Its when Oral stability is lost, it comes with expieriance I suppose spotting it. Also beginers are there to learn basic fundamentals, and enjoy it. Working at Vo2 max when not fit, doesnt last long and is counter productive. It usually causes injury and shock. In my eyes it takes progression to attain max fitness, and is a long process. I believe the 1st 6 months should be based on a sort of Fartleck principle of walk then run then a little speed then walk again. Its the idea of getting Fit, NOT injured, anybody injured isnt getting fit. :good
     
  10. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Cheers scrap that makes great sense
     
  11. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd say it's normal, especially when you first get into serious bag work. You use muscles you ordinarily wouldn't, so soreness is natural. After a few weeks you'll probably experience no soreness unless you really push yourself past what you ordinarily do (i.e. 3 rounds on the bag won't make you sore, but 7 will).

    Also, a lot of places that do introductory workouts really hit you with a lot in the first workout. The one place I went to told me 'That's the hardest workout you guys will do here. If you handled that, you can handle the rest no problem.'

    So I would just keep going and count on it taking care of itself in the next few weeks. Make sure you stretch afterwards, and a light jog might not be a bad idea either. Also: eat a lot. Carbs are your friend.
     
  12. Ai9184

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    I think if you live a healthy lifestyle outside of the gym, (good diet with lots of quality protiens, plenty of rest, high water intake) your body will adapt to the training no problem. now i never said it was gonna be easy but if you do what you need to do inside and outside of the gym you should be fine.
     
  13. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Well I've gone back a few times this week and it's a lot easier now that I'm used to it and know what to expect, but I still live in a state of constant soreness. Will this disappear to or do I just have to live with it? Any tips for loosening up sore muscles?
     
  14. Bad Dog

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    Exactly what bomber said. When you just start of training you wanna gradually work yourway towards a higher fitness. The way he has you training you'll be ****ed in a week and need a rest. Like Bomber said, he should be teaching you the techniques at first and letting you build up to a good solid fitness.
     
  15. Johnboy2007

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    i find if i arrive 1/2 hour before everyone else does for a session and just do very slow warm up gradually building up and then when its over spend a good while stretching and cooling down. if i do it properly (admittedly i dont always :oops:) then i rarely feel sore. Its just spending the time.

    Not sure what others think but i find dynamic "stretching" much better than static. Although i do static stretching at the end of a session. Although im not sure this is correct. Iv been looking on more information on this myself to be honest. Maybe scrap or bomber can enlighten ?? :D:good