After ____ fight.. you knew somebody would become an ATG

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  1. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm looking for a particular fight from the various ATG's in this sport, where you were very confident a fighter would go on to become an ATG because of ______ performance. Not looking for a fighters best career defining performance, but more a fight where you thought this fighter had all the goods to go onto win their career defining performance. Basically their coming of age fight where they showed they had the goods against good competition.
     
  2. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Any great fighter had special things in his early fights as novice, tyson was great since he was a kid... Foreman had huge power and it would be his passaport to room of the greats, clay had his speed ,reflexes and personality
     
  3. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Bonus points for anyone who mentions cases they thought that and were way off.
     
  4. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    AJ when he defeated Parker. Everybody knew he had power, but this time he showed he could box also against a very mobile fighter. Plus I didn´t saw that stamina issues.
    He´ll go all the way.
     
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  5. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Joshua never showed that he was great because basically he is not great, he had to get up from the floor to beat a complete shot wladimir and parker is a tomato can a nobody. Anthony joshua never did beat a relevant name
     
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  6. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    Wlad was shot? :lol: I guess there are tons of fighters who´d survive that right hand, yeah?

    You´re underestimating Parker as well as Joshua. Parker is extremely agile for a 236lb man. Joshua for me showed he was more complete in that fight as against Wladimir. He knew how to box it save.
     
  7. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    I though Dominick Guinn would do great things in the heavyweight division after I saw him go to war with, and win against, Duncan Dokiwari. Not that Duncan was himself a great fighter, but Guinn showed poise, cool under fire, good power and a good chin. I believe it was after that fight that Larry Merchant said Guinn was the most talented American heavyweight since Riddick Bowe. It wasn’t long after that Dominick became allergic to throwing punches. Larry and I were both wrong.
    Apologies to the OP who is asking for fights involving ATGs showing their class.
     
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  8. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hearns hit Rojas so hard, it made those who didn't notice start noticing … and then when he blitzes Cuevas .. it was a done deal .. Breland was a let down, so much hype. He's up and gases early?, gets another chance and draws
     
  9. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    No.. Wladimir at 40 and after tons of years of career was not shot... He was in his peak
     
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  10. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    There is a huge difference between being great and being a good boxer
     
  11. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    He was in excellent shape! Last time I checked I saw a 40 years old mummy accomplishing ATG stuff...

    If AJ gets hit by a Wilder bomb, he´s still young enough to reestablish.

    I just think Wilder looked much more complete vs. Parker and certainly got ATG blood flowing in his veins. We´ll see what happens.
     
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  12. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    I thought John Meekins would end up a lot better than he turned out to be. I don't remember why.
     
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    The 40 years old mummy was 10 years retired and then he did return and knocked out michael moorer, a man that did beat a young evander holyfield.. Great difference
     
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  14. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    What difference? What do you think is better performance: Knocking out Wlad, after getting up from a bomb or beat a glass chinned 222lb fat Moorer with a lucky punch? In therms of pure H2H-performance-level.
    You know yourself that both Wlad and Joshua would both terminate that Moorer, but without loosing every round before a lucky punch!
    I don´t take that epic victory away from George, but you know yourself that certain boxers a very capable aging boxers.
     
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  15. Contro

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    Parker is agile but completely noncombative.he has very little fighting spirit to him.someone with his agility chin and good power should be champ.
    His performances vs fury Ruiz takam and Joshua were all very dissappointing given his physical talent.

    Parker moves much more fluidly thanjoshua who looks like a robot in comparison, if Parker had a championship mindset he would be champ right now.

    Parker and fury are both talented in a way that very few HWs are today.they move like scaled up lower weight class fighters

    Most heavyweights today are stiff and uncoordinated