After Armstrong and other PED findings

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  1. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    here's one.

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    The sparring partner says he began regularly injecting Pacquiao with steroids in preparation for his subsequent fights with Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto.

    ”Once a week, right in the locker room of the Wild Card (Gym). Manny would drop his shorts and clench his teeth, and I would give him a jab in the upper outer quarter of his butt cheek. He hated every shot.”

    The contact also said that Pacquiao’s drugs were changed from regular steroids to a far less detectable combination of HGH and insulin after Floyd Mayweather began pointing the finger and making suggestions that Pacquiao’s almost super human ring achievements may not be all down to natural ability.

    ”They got spooked when Floyd rumbled ‘em.” said the contact. ”That whole thing with the pre fight blood test during the negotiations for a Pacquiao v Mayweather fight last year was because Manny and his team knew they needed one month prior to the fight to guarantee 100% that they would be clean in all tests.”
     
  2. Jabber

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    Op is a moron. US is giving us guys like Armstrong,Mayweather or Phelps and he's giving **** to a phillipino
     
  3. mancat

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    http://whyy.org/cms/radiotimes/2012/...re-of-cycling/

    October 23, 2012

    Yesterday, cycling’s governing body, the UCI, announced that Lance Armstrong was stripped of his seven straight Tour de France wins from 1999-2005 and permanently banned from the professional sport. These were the recommendations of the United States Anti-Doping Agency, USADA, which released a 1000 page report filled with witness testimony and scientific data alleging that Armstrong led a massive doping program for his pro cycling team. USADA chief executive Travis Tygert said in a statement that Armstrong “ran the most sophisticated, professionalized and successful doping program the sport has ever seen.” Armstrong, who has denied the charges, announced that he wound not fight the decision and last week, he stepped down as chairman of his charity Livestrong. Today on Radio Times, a conversation about Lance Armstrong, the culture of cycling and doping in sports. We’ll talk to JOE LINDSEY, a writer for Bicycling Magazine who has closely followed Armstrong’s career and the problem of doping in cycling, and CHRIS COOPER, Director of the Centre for Sports and Exercise Science at the University of Essex and author of Run, Swim, Throw, Cheat: The Science Behind Drugs in Sport.
     
  4. mancat

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    http://whyy.org/cms/radiotimes/2012/...re-of-cycling/

    October 23, 2012

    Yesterday, cycling’s governing body, the UCI, announced that Lance Armstrong was stripped of his seven straight Tour de France wins from 1999-2005 and permanently banned from the professional sport. These were the recommendations of the United States Anti-Doping Agency, USADA, which released a 1000 page report filled with witness testimony and scientific data alleging that Armstrong led a massive doping program for his pro cycling team. USADA chief executive Travis Tygert said in a statement that Armstrong “ran the most sophisticated, professionalized and successful doping program the sport has ever seen.” Armstrong, who has denied the charges, announced that he wound not fight the decision and last week, he stepped down as chairman of his charity Livestrong. Today on Radio Times, a conversation about Lance Armstrong, the culture of cycling and doping in sports. We’ll talk to JOE LINDSEY, a writer for Bicycling Magazine who has closely followed Armstrong’s career and the problem of doping in cycling, and CHRIS COOPER, Director of the Centre for Sports and Exercise Science at the University of Essex and author of Run, Swim, Throw, Cheat: The Science Behind Drugs in Sport.
     
  5. mancat

    mancat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't forget eastern Germany and the Soviet Union in the 70's and 80's.
     
  6. Yes they did, but in today's world from the 90s onwards, the states have been the world leader in illegal doping in sport and how to beat the testers.
     
  7. mancat

    mancat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, I think that if you look at the Tour de France doping was rampant in all of the countries. That's why no winner for the years of Armstrongs victories is replacing him. Everyone was doping, and the cycling organization in charge was complicit. However, I won't defend the USA. Cheaters are cheaters, wherever they come from. I just am not sure what your point is intrying to make US atheletes the scapegoats, or if you are even correct.
     
  8. DeadLikeMe

    DeadLikeMe Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This dumbass pinoy logic never ceases to make me lol:

    "Floyd's OSDT isn't true OSDT, therefore we shouldn't do any additional testing at all"

    Got to be the damn dumbest line of reasoning history.
     
  9. DeadLikeMe

    DeadLikeMe Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The clean winners probably finished in like 46th place or 38th tbh.
     
  10. mancat

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    Also, the eastern bloc doping was actually run by the governments in question, much like some peolple say China's Olympic atheletes are forced to dope by the government. The US athaletes are individuals trying to dope on their own.
     
  11. Only Americans with sour grapes.

    When an American teenage girl wins gold, she is great, when it is a Chinese girl she is on drugs.:nono
     
  12. mancat

    mancat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not true. Lance Armstrong was seen as a cheater by MANY American cyclers. Americans aren't as nationalistic as you are making them out to be when it comes to cheating. The baseball cheaters like Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa are reviled in the USA. And the accusations of China come mostly from Europe and other Asian countries.

    But the point I was speaking to was your statement that the biggest drug cheats are from the USA. I dispute that because I don't believe that and individual or team can be better or more sophisticated dopers than a government.
     
  13. I was just referring to what I seen over last summer's Olympics, and how the American media portrayed Ye Shiwen, of the back of that American coaches comments. It was not reported like this in the British media, we just saw it as the Americans with a bad case of sour grapes.

    Who makes better mobile phones, governments or companies?
     
  14. Rock0052

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    The USOC covered up multiple positive tests so we could keep our superstars like Carl Lewis competing.

    Even if we assume that doping wasn't encouraged by our trainers and implemented on a large scale, how is hiding positive tests once they're discovered any better?
     
  15. mancat

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    Excellent point. I agree the USA atheletes cheat, USA companies cheat, and individual atheletes have cheated. But ALL atheletes everywhere have cheated. Sidenote:Didn't Carl Lewis a cuse Usain Bolt of using PEDs during this summer's olympics? What was that all about?

    I also suspect Pac MORE because of this.