After bout Analysis of Mayweather vs McGregor

So it pleased him to get hit with an uppercut? Isn't that a bit far-fetched?

 

Remember-this is an MMA guy who suddenly and mysteriously forgets how to punch when he's in there with a pro boxer. So the contest might be closer than you predict.

 

I think you are underestimating how much MMA fans HATE Paulie Malignaggi. Every single Paulie interview on youtube has thousands of dislikes, his twitter account has gone into meltdown, man, they hate him more than they hate Floyd, Obama, Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks and Nelson Mandela combined.

They will pay to watch this fight. Absolutely no question.

And I'm backing Paulie to win!

 

You find that people aren't especially fond of constant braggers strange?

 

Probably ticked floyd's chin. It cracks me up that they keep replaying that punch and people lap it up. Didn't look that hard to me, that's when floyd probably realised Conor had no power and could play with him for the next 8 rounds.

 

It was scheduled for Las Vegas, then Tyson and Lewis had a brawl at the press conference and they decided not to license Tyson, who had previously been banned for biting Holyfield. There had also been gun violence associated with Tyson fighting there.

Nothing to do with not wanting the event. Everything to do with not wanting either a riot if Tyson got himself DQ'd or gunfire regardless of how it went down. That's not good for business.

 

Looked to me as if they were both in on that playing.

BTW
Lack of power isn't part of the Martial Art vocabulary. Even basic Martial artist practitioners are taught how to generate power in their punches. So if one as experienced as Conners is suddenly not generating power then something is fishy.

 

Couple of reasons why his power didn't come across..

Gloves not only because of the difference in protection masks some of the power but you are not able to use 4 ounce gloves as protection. Connor's power was lost in the softer gloves plus Floyd could use his to protect himself while Connor punched himself out..

Technique, Connor has no idea how to punch with force given with the 4 once gloves not as much force is needed plus MMA fighters have to worry about defending against far more options so it is easier to connect than boxing where you only have to worry about fists...

Connor really didn't have a clue what he was doing but the little success he had was due to his martial art training which is why Floyd didn't just come in a ko him first shot..

 

No comment about that. That comment scares me.

Yes for sure.
But 1 star level Boxers won´t win in an MMA vs 1 star Level MMA fighters. The problem is even if someone like McGregor has just an average groundgame, it s still easy for him to beat any Boxer of his weight class or Mayweather on the ground.
And usually it s very easy for a grappling trained person to bring people on the floor which don t have any grappling experience at all.
Try to defend a double leg takedown when u just have jab, uppercut and cross in your arsenal. It is s absolutely impossible to hit someone with those shots when the attacker comes in below your nuts and grabs both legs.
Couture showed this perfect vs Toney:
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In this point i agree with you.

Toney was shot, yes, he was 41 years at that time (went 42 two weeks later).
And Couture was not shot at the age of 47? Of course he was too!

Dude, im am from Germany and believe me Boxing is great over here, we don t have any good take on MMA at all, it s very dismissed and almost nobody likes it.
If any combat sport is great over here it s Boxing, not MMA, not Kickboxing or what s however.

From watching i prefer Boxing too like you do, and i agree with you that in the MMA - especially the UFC in the USA - they attack boxing over and over again. But don t blame the sport of MMA for it, MMA is much more then the UFC.
And believe me many boxing fans and boxers attacking the MMA scene the same way with much ignorance, both partys (MMA and Boxing) have much trash talkers and detractors in their game.

Like i said i respect both the same, but i have to say also Boxers usually getting the credit they deserve, but any others stylists (MMA, Kickboxing, Karate, Judo or what s however) don t get that respect that they deserve too.

For example:
Watch this 52 seconds of a Kickboxing K-1 Fight of that 7ft2 360 lbs guy from above, he once smashed the head of an opponent with his knee:

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Did you ever see such an injury in a Boxing fight? In the last seconds of the clip you see the cut at this guys face.
Seeing this i think: Getting in knee smashed in the face is something different then a boxing glove...and those guys don t get much respect at all.

 

they probably had a plan of how it was going to play out I'd agree. Conor wouldn't have had the same power as other boxers floyd faced, he has not had a lifetime of training how to generate power like a boxer

 

Learning how to punch properly is part of the basic training of Martial Arts. Martial artists can break boards with a punch. I am a martial artist myself and know by experience that ignorance of how to generate power via a punch is not a Martial arts flaw. Connors arm punches were clearly in violation of a very basic Martial arts principle that power is produced not from the arms but from the hips, torso and legs all combined into one swift harmonious motion. That he suddenly goes about arm-punching and daintily pitter pattering while tip-toeing around the ring seems to indicate fraud. Obviously he is counting on audience ignorance to get away with that garbage.

 

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What are your thoughts?

 

I actually think DelaHoya has a point when it comes to 12 round championship level fights and selling ppv's. I think a fighter should earn his way to fight a top fighter. However ODLH's exhibition fight was kinda ridiculous and makes his argument silly.

 

If every thread started related to Mayweather and McGregor is going to be thrown in one dumpster thread, why not just not allow it altogether?

I mean someone just started a thread with the question of "Is DLH right, Mayweather vs McGregor is disrespectful to boxing."

I think that's an interesting conversation piece, but when thrown in a dumpster thread, it cant really gain any momentum and be discussed intelligently can it?

If mods don't want Mayweather-McGregor discussed, just close the threads down and don't allow any talk of it.

There's hardly any good current debate around here and its precisely because mods are not allowing it.

It you have multiple threads on the same topic, close all but the first one that posted.

If there's trolls around loitering threads, ban them.
That just isn't being done around here and this forum has become a place for people that don't really have discussing boxing in mind.

This forum sucks is what I'm getting at.