After bout Analysis of Mayweather vs McGregor

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Flatlander, Aug 27, 2017.


Was Mayweather Hurt By Conor's Body Shot At The Start Of The 9th?

  1. Yes. It's Obvious.

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  2. No. Floyd Was Just ACTING

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  1. BCS8

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    Like pitting a 0-0 boxer vs a 49-0 boxer? :rolleyes:
     
  2. BCS8

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    Actually, no.

    Everytime you have posted a point about barbarous MMA fighters without evidence I have posted a to-the-point post about barbarous boxers WITH evidence.

    You posted about an MMA fighter beating a three year old toddler to death. It was actually a boxer, and I provided the link.

    You wanted to know about renowned MMA fighters? I posted evidence of them hanging out with heads of state, and being in their country's parliament.

    Over and over you've been exposed and proven wrong.

    Maybe you ought to change your avatar.

    You DO know that Raoh qualifies as an MMA fighter, right?
     
  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Come on now you are a good poster who is better than this.

    Don't lower yourself down to their levels and resort to bare face lies.

    Here is the child abuser, once again, in case there was something wrong with your eyes to begin with.

    Apr 28, 2017 06:22 AM
    TUCSON, AZ (Tucson News Now) - An MMA fighter from New Mexico has been arrested on abuse charges after a 3-year-old girl was found unresponsive in a home on Tucson's south side.''


    [url]http://m.tucsonnewsnow.com/tusconnewsnow/db_330662/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=dXjnopeG[/url]

    I showed you the statistics which revealed there are far more thugs and domestic violence in UFC.

    You posted links to a few non entities who were far from being household names.

    Again your lot are found to be disingenuous liars with no shame. Don't become a full on mmtard fanboy

    You of all people should know better as I never associated you with these fools.

    Roah was a master in one discipline, the Hokuto Shinken which never would be mastered by scum
     
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  4. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    Hey Stoopid!

    The forum loves these essays you write, time well spent. :D

    Please correct us on Lesnar again - last time was too funny!
     
  5. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    Top job at winding Syphilis up. :eatingburger
     
  6. BCS8

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    OK, so there's a boxer and an MMA fighter that like beating little kids to death.


    That's a terrible study and I don't even know where to start dissecting it. The base statistics are not clear, there's no sample size, there's no reference to which standard statistics have been used as comparison, there's no peer review ... and most importantly, there's no comparison to violence committed by boxers.

    And yet these non entities are known around the world and meet heads of state.

    A guy can like both boxing and MMA. I don't know where you get your hatred for MMA from, but it's irrational. The mere act of cross training is just that: crosstraining in more than one discipline. If there are sections of the MMA * fanbase * that come off as idiots, well, there's nothing to be done about that. The fact that there may be inbreds that support it cannot be helped, the same as fighters in boxing can't help it if there are idiots that support them. Golota and Bowe couldn't be held personally responsible for the mass riot that broke out between their supporters after their first fight, could they?

    Ahem.

    1) Technically Raoh IS scum. Raoh based his rule on fear and violence. He had no problem with murdering entire populaces to consolidate his rule and that included women and children. His troops were the worst of the worst and indulged in torture and sadism as a matter of course. The entire FOTNS series is an exercise in demonstrating that the ends do not justify the means. Yet Raoh believed the ends justify the means. The fact that Raoh redeemed himself at the end of the series through self sacrifice and through saving Yuria doesn't change that fact.

    2) Jagi, who was one of the most irredeemable characters in FOTNS and true scum, mastered Hokuto Shinken. The art was just that: a fighting art that could be used for good OR evil.

    3) Raoh cross trained in many disciplines after he learned Hokuto Shinken to create Go No Ken, his strong fist style. He established the prison of Cassandra specifically to fight against great martial artists so that he could steal their secrets and increase his own power.

    4) The entire concept of Hokuto Shinken is rooted in Eastern mysticism and the idea that one can assimilate many styles to create a perfect art. That is the essence of MMA. Consider that one of the core strengths of Hokuto Shinken is that it allows a master to absorb another style after seeing it used in battle once.
     
  7. BCS8

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    Man, I think that somewhere along the line he's had a really bad experience with either an MMA fighter or an MMA fan. I can't explain it otherwise. If that's the case, I kinda feel sorry for him.
     
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  8. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    Syph and the boxing bum boys are going to have to find a new tune - topic has been moved to the MMA section, they will have to actively visit the dark side now.

    Can you imagine the tears once the mods just delete it? :llorona: All that wasted time on essays. :D
     
  9. BCS8

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    Nooooo ... what about my essays? :(

    Should have been in the MMA section to begin with ;)
     
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  10. BCS8

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    Just found out Wlad did Judo and wrestled before he boxed. Technically, an MMA guy just ruled boxing for a decade :lol:
     
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  11. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    My sympathies but I doubt it will hurt you - your sane. The insane fanners - all that time, pfft gone from the general. Pays to keep it pithy in basket case threads. :D
     
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  12. 3rdegree

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    :imwithstupid:Another example of your idiotic hypocrisy is when you foolishly quote Socrates and then slander in the same paragraph.
    The knowledgeable fans continue to expose your faulty "logic",yet you have this delusion(core issue) that you're somehow winning the arguments?? You're denseness and denial has reached pitiful depths and continues to grow.
    If you can convince us how learning boxing,karate,sambo,kickboxing,wrestling,taekwondo,and jujitsu is less difficult that just learning boxing i'll pat you on the back and say adios. Waiting...............:aplastao:
     
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  13. Serge

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    No problem.

    [url]http://www.lowkickmma.com/lists/10-brutal-weight-cuts-ufc-history/[/url]

    IIRC Sugar ''Money'' Mac weighed 168 on the night when he fought Nate Diaz at welterweight (170lbs), 168 is 23lbs above the featherweight limit. No question he was a huge featherweight (145lbs) but like I said lots of MMA fighters cut tons of weight. Plenty of boxers do too.

    Er. Floyd has been fighting opponents much bigger than him for years. Many of his opponents have had tons of weight on him come fight night. Canelo, Ortiz, Maidana etc were all in the mid 160s when they fought him. When Floyd fights at welter he is invariably facing bigger men most of the time. But now we're going to start crying about him being at a size disadvantage when he faces a MMA fighter who is a rank novice boxer who'd never had a single professional boxing bout in his life? 0-0-0 lol

    And Sugar ''Money'' Mac is not my hero. I enjoy watching him fight and I find him entertaining but he's not even my favourite MMA fighter, let alone favourite fighter or ''hero'' lol. I'm a way, way, way bigger fan of boxing than I am of MMA. It's not even remotely close. And I despise Dana White and I can't stand all those goons that start jumping around like over-excited kids on a sugar rush when the camera pans around the audience at UFC events. PRIDE>>>UFC.

    It's only a ''mythical fight'' because Floyd wouldn't dare face Sugar ''Money'' Mac in his realm, Mac had zero problems stepping into Floyd's realm and taking him on under boxing rules, rules that favoured Floyd by a huge extent. Mac took 4 rounds of ''TBE'' and lasted into the 10th despite the fact that his gas tanks had been running on empty for at least 5 rounds and it was his first ever pro boxing bout lol

    Holly Holm started out as a kickboxer not a boxer and she's 1-3 in her last 4 MMA fights. She beat Rhonda because that hideous skank started to believe she was a great boxer not a one-trick pony submission artist (albeit a very good trick). And I enjoyed seeing Holm spark her out immensely.

    Sugar 'Money'' Mac has only won one fight by submission but he's a stand up fighter whose bread and butter is striking. That means punches and kicks. In fact, his striking is so effective he was able to win 4 rounds of ''TBE'' in his first ever professional boxing bout lol. That's how effective it is.

    He trains day in, day out with one of the best submission artists in all of MMA, Floyd isn't going to be able to learn how defend against take downs and submissions in a matter of mere months against Sugar ''Money'' Mac, let alone MMA's elite submission experts and grapplers lol.

    And the majority of MMA fighters are not failed boxers lol.



    Tim Sylvia is a big fat slow whale who stood in front of a smaller faster former Olympic gold medalist/pro world champion with a bomb of a right hand and he paid the price.

    Raymond Mercer vs kickboxer

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    Raymond Mercer vs street fighter/MMA novice

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    Sugar ''Money'' Mac has terrible stamina. I've known this myself since the Diaz fights. But while he still had air in his lungs and gas in his tanks he was more than holding his own with ''TBE'', no MMA fighter/0-0-0 boxer should be making it even remotely competitive in a boxing ring with a top level boxer, never mind against someone like Floyd. Even a 40 year old Floyd. The fact that Sugar ''Money'' Mac was able to do so is crazy. It was his first ever professional boxing bout and he was facing Floyd Mayweather for goodness sake.

    If Sugar ''Money'' Mac has fought a procession of bums in MMA then that only makes what he was able to do against Floyd even more impressive lol
     
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  14. Serge

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    "Six months of training isn’t going to be enough," Haye said. "As a UFC fan, I know two or three years wouldn’t be enough. How many times has Toney sprawled in his life? 500? How many leg kicks has he taken in his life? 300? How many Kimura attempts has he defended? 140? Even if he’s done double that amount, he wouldn’t have nearly the experience needed to win a UFC fight."

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    "I know from training in MMA myself that the wrestling aspect ruins your punching power," Haye said. "After a minute of grappling, your arms, back and shoulders fill with blood and even if you then find space to throw punches, your power is suddenly crap.

    "And I hit a lot harder and I’m so much faster than James, and I couldn’t land a punch on fighters when all they wanted to do was take me down to the ground. James is a much more static fighter than I am, and is going to get thrown on his back immediately by Randy. I admire Toney’s spirit and boxing skills. But he’s delusional here."

    --David ''The Hayemaker'' Haye
     
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  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    As for what I, aka Serge, predicted before the fight

    'My prediction when the fight was announced was McGregor will win the (trash talk/press conferences) by a country mile and Floyd will win the fight by as big a margin. If Floyd was 60 I'd probably still pick him to win. Too fast, too slick, too good, too experienced, and too difficult for actual elite professional boxers and multiple weight champions who've been boxing since they were young kids to lay a glove on vs too MMA and too 0-0-0 in boxing.
    Serge, Aug 1, 2017

    Fighting Floyd, regardless if he's 40 years old, in your pro debut is crazy and he's going and he's going to get badly embarrassed and humiliated.
    Serge, Aug 22, 2017

    On Sugar ''Money'' Mac chances and the MMA fans that were picking him to win

    'Some of them are clueless, and some of them are taken in by his sheer self-belief and self-confidence in himself that he's going to pull it off.

    He's going to realize very quickly that he's badly out of his depth.
    Serge, Aug 22, 2017'

    If McGregor even manages to win a round off of him it will be a small victory for him. If he even manages to crack him clean with a few hard shots he'll have done well. Anything other than a KO or stoppage win for Floyd will be embarrassing.

    His confidence in McGregor would be understandable if they were fighting under MMM rules or McGregor was fighting a fellow MMA guy. However, McGregor is attempting to do something that is just way too big an ask. I wouldn't bet a single penny on him winning. It's crazy to think someone who is 0-0-0 in the sport of boxing could pull something like this off. I'll give him plenty of props if he proves me wrong but I really can't see it.

    That £100 is as good as in your hand, IMO.'
     
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