So Ortiz is good enough for Floyd but not for Pac lol IMO both Pac vs Ortiz and Floyd vs Ortiz are mismatches.
naw not saying that wouldn't mind seeing manny and victor go at it, but if it were to happen after lil floyd beats victor, THEN that's a problem
probably the most logical thing and only thing that could possibly be used but rather do that, if manny's next fight won't be against serg then just retire
Now if Pac fights and somehow beats Serg, what will *****s excuse be? "Manny's surely on PEDs" "He only beat overrated Pavlik and Williams" "Pac drained him to 154" "He was not that good" "He was exposed"
ALL OF THE ABOVE AND THEN SOME EVEN IF MANNY BEATS THEIR LOVER LIL FLOYD THERE WILL ALWAYS BE EXCUSES HATER'S GOIN HATE
floyd fought a green ortiz....now that he has been on the big stage with some ring xp with a top fighter, he will be more difficult to beat...pac is really testing himself
"Manny's surely on PEDs" -NO PROOF "He only beat overrated Pavlik and Williams" - WILLIAMS, WHOM LIL FLOYD DIDN'T WANT NONE OF "Pac drained him to 154" - STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSES MOUTH, (SERG) "I CAN MAKE 154" "He was not that good" - ONLY NUMBER 2 ON THE P4P LIST "He was exposed"
you didn't answer the TS's questions... you just flipped into defensive mode... if floyd beats ortiz and manny signs to fight ortiz right after (knowing that ortiz no longer has a welterweight belt for negotiating purposes), then yes, i would have a problem with that fight....but that doesn't mean that ortiz isn't good enough to fight manny. :good
Ortiz may be able to overpower and overwhelm Manny but he will probably eat punch after punch until he gets stopped.
why would anyone want to justify that, im tired of the do better than floyd did type of fights like mosley, just fight floyd himself and turn his lights out so we can move on.
exactly, there really is no justification if manny fights victor afterwards, it'd b a slap in the face if no lil floyd then retire, unless he goes balls out and takes on serg and does somethin really big for the fans before he leaves
Pac fights are an event though, there are so many people making money of him, which leads me to believe he wont retire yet, he will continue till he gets eventually stopped then retires like most boxers. but yeah the winner of floyd vs victor should be next on the list if he beats marquez, for sure.