After Fury fight has your Wilder vs Joshua opinion changed?

Go on then lets compare, Wilder ain't the only one who dishes out unresponsive KO'd opponents... breidis did same thing to Charr.

Fury and Ortiz got up from knock downs with their own power in good time. Even Whyte KOd Browne and chisora who stayed down for longer periods.

 

AJ has stopped opponents that no one else ever has and in brutal fashion ala, Whyte, Johnson and Povetkin. I would rate AJ's uppercut every bit as lethal as Wilders right hand and the only decent level opposition Wilder has slept with one punch are Szpilka (chin of finest China) and Stiverne 2 (harpooned beached whale), everyone else has been taken out with multiple punches and windmills. Plus AJ is a far more clinical finisher than Wilder, AJ hurts him once and there's a strong likelihood that Wilders looking up at the lights in a haze a few seconds later.

 

This.

 

I just don't see it. Fury is a fine boxer who can't punch and has very low out put. To see some posts on here, Fury is an other worldly boxer, the likes of which we've never seen or ever will. He beat a Klitschko who at the time had his wife going through such severe post natal depression, by all account she was practically on suicide watch ( hardly ideal preparation), got a contested draw against a very basic brawler in Wilder, who looked on Fury as an easy touch after a 2 1/2 year after party and no doubt took it for granted that he would stop Fury early and then nothing more than fringe contenders at best.

When Fury defeats a top 10 opponent in conclusive, convincing, uncontestable fashion, I may just jump on the hype train again. Beating up on Tom Shart with 5-10 pitta patta punches a round doth not a ATG heavyweight make.

 

Aside from the bit about Wilder, of which the draw was a fair result, have to agree. There's a mystique around BJS and Fury, which has them as these enigmatic, once in a lifetime talents. This may be true from a defence POV, but there's other elements which they lack which counter-balance the plaudits.

I see Joshua giving Fury a very hard day at the office indeed at this point. Yes, Joshua can be a linear one-two artist, but he's very accurate and very good at applying effective aggression, the latter of which saw Fury look at his most vulnerable against Wilder.

Re Joshua Wilder, a true 50/50. Equally athletic, roughly equal punch power, Joshua has a better defence but Wilder throws far more unconventional shots.

 

I largely agree also, saying that anyone out boxes AJ with ease is a fanciful stretch to say the least. He's far too strong and powerful for that. Fury would need a 24 foot ring and the kind of agility he displayed 3-4 years ago to keep AJ at bay and stand a chance of winning.

That Fury is gone now. You don't put your body through what Fury has and become a better boxer post prime in your early thirties. To beleive that is just plain illogical. Joshua on the other hand isn't 30 for another 5-6 months and is improving his game and ring IQ every fight.

I dont see any of the current top 10 beating AJ, it will be someone coming through in the next 3-5 years when Joshua's best days are behind him.

 

I should’ve been more specific. Joshua doesn’t have Fury’s mobility, handspeed, or ring IQ, which gave Wilder an extremely hard time, but he does have a very good check hook that I could see giving Wilder a ton of trouble and Joshua follows his corners instructions better than Fury does, so that could work to Joshua’s advantage.

Also, I think people are underrating Fury’s ability to make his opponent fight at his pace. He had Wilder sucking wind in the later rounds and in my opinion screwed up big time by ignoring Davison’s instructions going into the 12th.

 

Joshua would never take Furys boxing skills for granted and hit air for 12 rounds hoping for a lucky punch as Wilder did, he's far too smart for that and so is McCracken. AJ would likely accept that the early rounds were likely to go to Fury and just bide his time, trying to set up traps and counters and launch unannounced, marauding attacks like he did with WK and had WK hurt and in trouble each time.

Also, what exactly does a fully fit, prime and motivated Joshua have to fear from Fury? I doubt Fury can KO Joshua or really hurt him for any sustained period to result in a TKO. I'm not saying that Joshua will just walk through everything Fury throws at him but, he can certainly take more risk and gamble more with his attacks. If Joshua hurts Fury at any point aswell, I just don't this this version of Fury keeping AJ off him. AJ is just too strong and powerful now, at all ranges.

 

Kinda. But it was more about how Wilder dealt with the big occasion. As in not too well.

Nerves on the night play a big part I think and it made me question how Wilder would handle an even bigger fight.

I thought Joshua would get him out of there before and still do.

 

AJ all day he’s just getting into his prime.

 

Nah since Joshua style is nothing like Fury. I still don’t know who to pick in that match. Joshua is the better fighter but Wilder could catch him with one of those bombs

 

This question should be asked again after the Breazeale fight who is a puncher and BOTH have fought where an actual comparison can be made.

Fury has no meaning on a Joshua fight at all. Two entirely different type of fighters . The only reason Wilder will be a 50/50 fight there is bc Fury doesn't have real HW power at least in consistency.

Joshua will punch Wilders lights out in easy fashion if he cant improve by at least 25%...which is not going to happen because hes at the tail end of his career now. lol

If we look at both skills all around...Joshua is like 80 % more skilled then Wilder all around and comes with power and ability to take instructions . Wilder simply cannot win this fight outside a huge Joshua mistake ,unless you put blind fold on AJ one cannot favor Wilder....its impossible unless you aren't using logic and using what you want to use . lol

 

AJ man-handled Breazeale for the entire fight, was never even bothered by Dominic's presence. Felt he could of stopped him earlier if he applied the gas and let more combinations go. AJ also destroyed Molina in a much more impressive fashion than Wilder (did Molina even land a punch? whereas we know Eric put Deontay on ***** street).

As time goes on and these events unfold it only cements the already widely acknowledged outcome of AJ smashing Wilder to pieces, hell, even his handlers know it and turned down $120 million ffs.

 

Fury has a win over WK and a draw against Windymiller, that's his resume lol. He dined out on the WK victory in excess, the guy went off the rails for a little while and when a re-match was starting he knew he was in for it and Ped'ed up. Blamed it all on mental health and is now making a mint touring about it. The guy is as fake as the lineal belt lmao.

 

because Wilder isn't very skilled.