After Kesslers domination. Where does that leave Mundine, Sartisan, Hausler and Beyer

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  1. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Obviously great fighters. Where does their legacy go after this. Everyone talks about Calzaghe, but the way Kessler fans were talking about these guys, they most have been first ballot Hofers and ATGs. Does Kesslers pounding hurt their magnificent legacies aswell?
     
  2. Smazz20

    Smazz20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jesus christ. Are you still crying that fans had the audacity to choose against your fighter? Nice way to run down Ward though, keep it up.
     
  3. Danny_Rand

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    No seriously. I mean Mundine, Beyer and Sartisan are sooo good. How could Kessler possibly lose to Ward. He schooled Andrade!
     
  4. Smazz20

    Smazz20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jesus man. It was the logical choice. Ward's best win to date was Miranda. That's it. Kessler had been to the lions den before to face Mundine, a very fast athletic fighter, and Kessler won comfortably. He went into the lions den again to fight Calzaghe and put in a good spirited performance. He has good solid fundamentals and was able to soundly outbox Andrade, a Miranda level fighter. Most simply thought that Ward didn't have the required experience to take the steep step up in class from Miranda to Kessler. Most of us were proven wrong bigtime by a damn good performance from Ward. Enjoy the win and stop fretting. In all likelyhood, that's the best win Ward can have in this tournament.
     
  5. Magges

    Magges Well-Known Member Full Member

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    "Fighter A beats fighter B who defeated Fighter C.. Thus A beats C.. Does not work in boxing.... BTW if you are to stupid to realise it, you are belittling Ward's victory
     
  6. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know that Ward would win with a different ref. Maybe. Maybe not. I tend to think he would actually lose although he does have some great skills, it is hard to separate them from the bull**** that went on in the Kessler fight.

    You better hope Ward beats Taylor after all the **** you talked about Taylor being a joke and now all of Kessler's victories too.
     
  7. Danny_Rand

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    You'd think that because you dont know **** about boxing and are about to serve a 1 month ban for daring to challenge me.

    Ward would have kicked Kesslers mediocre ass even if the fight had been held in the middle of copenhagen avenue. Doesnt matter. Kessler cant defend the jab up the middle and cant handle being swarmed. Kessler was down 8-0, 7-1 before Ward ever hurt him with a headbutt. If you had analyzed his fight with Calzaghe correctly, you would have saw that. But alas maybe you'll learn your lesson over your break.

    Kesslers victories were a joke. Atleast Taylor beat a couple of real champions. Although that wont help in against Ward. Stylistically, since Jermain isnt as deficient technically as Kessler or Froch he should perform better, but Ward is younger, faster and isnt scared to death as Taylor is after being KO'd so many times.
     
  8. link2296

    link2296 Boxing Addict banned

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    Nowhere...styles make fights, also Kessler hasn't fought a live opponent in years.

    Now if Kessler doesn't come back from this defeat, then you have a debate.
     
  9. Taylex

    Taylex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beyer was always **** and Mundine is so overrated is not even funny. Sartisan and Hausler are just average fighters who got a title shot to help pad Kesslers record.
     
  10. Danny_Rand

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    Athletic and fast. Wow. You just named the entire US journeymen team. What about good at boxing? Was he that? Who had Mundine ever had to prove that he was a good boxer against? Was it all the cabbies he beat up in Australia?
    He won 2 rounds. 3 if you're being generous. What does being spirited have to do with anything. After Calzaghe broke him with the jab, he was basically the same guy we saw against Ward. Swingingly widely for the fences hoping for a miracle.
    Andrade. Is a walking punching bag. He cant block punches with his arms because they get numb. So he has to roll punches with his face. Not to mention he's slow as, well, one of his own hooks.
    Ward had 1 million rounds of amatuer boxing and 25 professional fights. Sorry, you dont need to fight Mike Tyson to prepare yourself for someone of Kesslers caliber. ****, Floyd and Roy Jones jr had less experience when they became world champions.

    No, Dirrells and Abraham are much better fighters then Kessler. Those 2 are the best he can do in the tournament.
     
  11. Smazz20

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    He fights Taylor next who's coming off 2 ko's. No matter how he wins, it's nowhere near as good as what he did to Kessler. We've no idea how Dirrell will perform against Abraham, but assuming he loses, then how is that going to be a better win than Kessler? He has no gurantee to fight Abraham in this tournament, but we'd have to asses how they stand when they meet to decide how much that win might stack up against the Kessler win. But as it stands, the only way he'll pick up a better win in this tournament, than the Kessler bout, is if he gets to the final unbeaten against Abraham who is still unbeaten.

    Ward pulled off a damn good win last week against the pre tournament favourite and world title holder. I don't see what's got you so upset.
     
  12. The_Chesco_Kid

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    I agree with this and the the Hopkins-Taylor-Pavlik fights proved this again. All that can be said is Ward was better than Kessler that night. Personally I think Ward beats him most nights but thats an opinion.
     
  13. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    DR uses logic like fighter A beats fighter B so fighter B's previous opp's are all chumps! cos he has the IQ of a gnat,the thought processes of an ameba and the reasoning of a ******ed chimp! just pat him on the head throw him a rusk and tell him santa is real,its easier!
     
  14. Chileno606

    Chileno606 Gentleman & Scholar Full Member

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    Ward is a dousche. He could have won the fight cleanly by showcasing his boxing talent, but instead he chose to fight dirty and be dishonorable.
     
  15. Danny_Rand

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    :rofl Same old ****. If Ward hadnt roughed up Kessler you would have called him a runner. Just like Froch vs Dirrell. Froch body slams and hits Dirrell with 100 behind the head shots, and because dirrell stayed on the outside and boxed for most of the fight he ran.

    Sorry this is a fight. If Kessler cant fight on the inside then theres not point in being a boxer.