After Lockett who's next for Pavlik?I

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  1. Hermit

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    Kelly is like the little pig that keeps getting up earlier than the big bad wolf. He asked Lowe to start his training early for the 2nd Taylor fight. Wise move. JKelly's weight is already pretty much down. So, he has been training hard.
     
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  3. booradley

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    I'm not saying that Joe will learn anything new. Right now he is being quiet about Pavlik out of respect for Lockett. If he were continue to call Kelly out, that would be equal to saying he expects his stablemate to lose. Joe is not a completely classless *******, so he is not calling Pavlik out right now. After he witnesses the 3 or 4 round destruction of a man he has sparred dozens of rounds with he'll forget Kelly's name, fight Roy Jones, proclaim himself a legend killer again, and retire undefeated.
     
  4. booradley

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    I find you to be a rather odd character, so I took the liberty of learning more about the great boxing mecca of Iceland. I was surprised by what I learned about your women. Is this your wife?

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  5. Scar

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    Winner of Abraham/Miranda II FOR SURE if he plans to stay at Middleweight, if not then Calzaghe.
     
  6. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Miranda will not fight at 160. Abraham/Miranda is at a catchweight of 166 or 164, I can't recall which. There is no reason for a Pavlik/Miranda rematch. Miranda lost every round but possibly the 2nd, and just generally got brutalized on the way to the TKO. If it had been competetive, like the first Taylor fight for example, it would be a different story. So, if Miranda beats Abraham, which is very likely, I'd like to see Pavlik move to 168 right away. Set him up with somebody of the "C" list to help get used to the weight, and then either Kessler or Calzaghe.
     
  7. Scar

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    I was assuming Abraham vs Pavlik would be the fight since I'm expecting Abraham to destroy Miranda and it would be an exciting fight. Though if Miranda wins a rematch might not be necessary but considering Miranda's list of excuses it could be good while it lasts simply because I won't get bored of seeing Pavlik smash that guy's ugly face in. If that's not in plan then moving up as you claimed would definitely be better, a fight with Kessler would be awesome too considering the action guaranteed there.
     
  8. booradley

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    Scar -- there is no freaking way Abraham beats Pavlik. Styles make fights, and Abraham would have to change just about every facet of his style to win. At 160 Arthur is the only meaningful fight for Pavlik, and I'm not knocking him, but damn, Pavlik is his worst freaking nightmare style wise! You cannot hide in a corner or rest on the ropes against Pavlik, and you can't set back and fight only the last 30-45 seconds of a round. I seriously doubt if Arthur will last any longer against Pavlik than Bronco McKart did! Small middleweights with a shell defense get destroyed.

    But yes, Kessler is a great opponent for Pav. I'd look for a late stoppage by Pavlik. Kessler is not mentally strong enough to handle 12 rounds of what Pavlik brings to the ring.
     
  9. Samurai

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    How is Abraham small?

    Because he is around 4 inches shorter than Pavlik? He is thick. Possibly even stronger than Pavlik and definitely a harder punch, especially with one.
     
  10. Brickhaus

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    If Miranda beats Abraham, why in the world would he fight the Abraham-Miranda winner. The only reason he wants to fight Abraham is to further unify, and because he's consensus #2 in the division. If Miranda wins, he's no longer consensus #2, but he'll still have the belt because Abraham-Miranda is at a catchweight. And there's no benefit to rematching Miranda yet - he's not that highly ranked in SMW, and there are bigger money fights to be had there. Eventually there will be a Pavlik-Miranda rematch, but I'm going to guess that it's 4 - 5 years down the road and at light heavyweight.
     
  11. booradley

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    Arthur appears to have the arms and shoulders of a weight lifter, or at least someone who does a lot of lifting. Personally I think that with smarter training and nutrition Abraham could make 154. His punching power is questionable. He has looked damn good against guys off the "D" list, but Miranda and Eastman took him the full 12.
     
  12. jimmie

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    Rubio is penciled in for September which is embarrsing the only times ive seen him Jantuah knocked him out cold in the 1st round then Ouma beat his ass over 10 rounds. That all happened at 154 yet and within 4 years yet hes getting a title shot. Ive never even heard of Lockett and he has no notable names on his resume besides Kevin Kelly and it aint the 1990s Featherweight Kelly either but he gets a title shot. **** you Arum make Winky Wright-Kelly Pavlik right now you piece of ****.
     
  13. Bodysnatcher

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  14. booradley

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    I've been thinking this for a while. why the hell doesn't he drop down? At 154 he'd be a freaking monster.
     
  15. booradley

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    Rubio is the WBC mandatory. Lockett is the WBO mandatory. Neither of them deserves to be in their spot, but what is Pavlik suppose to do? He has to fight his mandatories if he wants to keep his titles, and it would be pretty tough to attain his goal of unifying the division if he vacates; mutually exclusive ideas there my freind!