After looking at RJJ, I believe he has a chance against Calzaghe

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  1. Popshots

    Popshots Active Member Full Member

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    Of course a prime Jones would have destroyed Calzaghe, but as of lately I've had doubts. I use to believe that Calazghe's workrate would be too much for this version of RJJ, but I realize that RJJ has a lot more fight then most realize. Calzaghe's workrate has been against lesser opponents who present less of a threat to him, but against someone such as Jones with his power, I wonder how Calzaghe would react. I know Jones could have finished off Tito if he would have turned up the heat. All in all I give Jones a chance of actually pulling it off should Calzaghe get by Hopkins.
     
  2. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    I doubt Roy has it in him to beat Joe tbh. The pressure that Tito put him under was nothing compaired to what Joe would do.
     
  3. Shane

    Shane Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He does have a great chance anyone that says otherwise is pretty much your typical nuthugger.
    Roy showed us that he still has very good speed and reflexes at this stage of his career.
     
  4. TFFP

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    The crux of your argument seems to be Joe would be threatened by his power, but in truth he hasn't displayed this great power in recent times

    Sure, he knocked down Trindad, but that was almost a given against the much smaller man coming off a 2 year lay off. Still didn't knock him out

    Infact, he hasn't knocked anyone out since 2002
     
  5. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    What does that matter against a fast swarmer like Joe? Roy couldn't handle Johnson's pressure 4 years ago, he's not handling Calzaghe's faster pressure now.

    It all comes down to one thing that keeps Jones behind the elites today, his workrate. Against an incredibly limited fighter like Tito, he could get away with it, but not Joe. In his prime, yes, he would beat Joe handily. Nowadays? No, he likely gets stopped.
     
  6. Popshots

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    True, but look what happened when Tito tasted of RJJ's power.. He wasn't so eager to pressure in fact he was walking Tito down. Joe's pressure is impressive, but very sloppy. If Jones catches him a few times in it would be interesting to see how he reacts. If he will continue to pressure or try to change his tactic.
     
  7. dan-b

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    Wait, hold the phone. Why isn't Roy Jones in your avatar?:huh












    :lol:
     
  8. Popshots

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    Tito's coming off a 2 years lay off and being the smaller man is an excuse there are smaller guys who have knocked out bigger men or got the victory. The 2 year lay off is Titos fault. He called out Jones which wasn't intelligent on his part.

    You don't have to knock someone out to get their respect. I know Jones could have finished Tito off, but for whatever reason he didn't go for it. I simply see Jones have a better shot bases on this performance. Jones claims that his body needed to adjust and now he is well adjusted, its time to see if thats true. He looked better then he has in a while and nobody know his body better then he does. Some will say he couldn't handle Glen Johnson's pressure so how will he handle Calzaghe. Calzaghe doesn't hit as hard as Johnson and Jones claims that he wasn't totally recovered from his loss of muscle when he went to HW, so now its time to see if that claim is true if he fights Calzaghe.
     
  9. 196osh

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    Joe could adapt also, how many times were Roy and Tito just standing in front of each other punching? Alot, if that was Joe he would have hit Roy with 5-10 punch's when Tito hit him with 1 or 2.

    Just cant see it at this stage :-(
     
  10. maximumsg

    maximumsg Active Member Full Member

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    too much made of roy beating a sorry fighter that has never beat anyone of significance obove 154. trinidad was great until he moved up too much in weight but, with the weight and long layoffs he will never be champion material again.
     
  11. Popshots

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    Are you kidding me, You must of forgot how he dominated 168. What has Calzaghe done in his career for you to believe that a prime Jones would have outclassed him and possible destroyed him if he turned up the heat? Some will mention the Lacy fight, but Lacy was never a great fighter. His last fighter was against an unknown undefeated fighter who has never beaten anyone notable.

    True Jones' workrate is what it used to be, but Jones' still has power and if Calaghe taste it whose to say he will keep pressing foward like he has been against these no named fighters he has been beating all of his career. The odds at this point are not in Jones' favor because Calzaghe does turn up the heat in his pressure so it would be an interesting bout to me if he gets by B hop
     
  12. kirk

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    Popshots man i honestly cant believe you think that....
    come on man... tito was competetive for the first 5 rounds of the fight..


    mark my words.... and this is 100% truth...

    ROY HAS NO CHANCE TO BEAT JC

    He would have his back to the ropes throughout the fight... he would be outpunched, outworked, outboxed, and it would be JC's easiest fight since lacy..
     
  13. Popshots

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    Actually too much isn't being made of RJJ. I used to believe that he had no chance against Calzaghe, but I see him have a slight shot of not totally embarrassing himself. I figured Joe's workrate would be too much for Jones at this point, but i noticed how Jones could have turned up the heat on Tito so that lets me know that he has more inside of him then he actually outputs.

    The odds would be heavily against Jones, this is a fight that I wouldn't bet on. Jones leans on the ropes to much etc, I understand all of the arguements against Jones having a shot, but the only way to know for sure is to make the fight happen should Calzaghe gets by B.Hop.
     
  14. brooklyn1550

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    Calzaghe's workrate and swarming attack is far too much for Jones to handle at this point. Jones doesn't have the footspeed or the reflexes he used to and he is very succeptable to pressure. Joe would likely make him go into a defensive shell, seriously out-work him, and rough him up.
     
  15. Popshots

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    I don't know if Calzaghe will hit harder at 175, and I don't agree that his workrate is awesome. As far as Jones' power not bothering Calzaghe, thats unknown. If the fight is to take place at 175, the that is truly and unknown statement because he's never been hit by a 175 fighter. Jones's offense is definitely a key weakness in his arsenal because he leans on the ropes far to much nowdays. The odds are against him no doubt, but it still would be interesting to see how Joe handles 175 and if Jones still has the power to bother him as he would have in his prime. Jones claims that his body is adjust to being back down in weight so I'm interested to see if this claim is true.