After Pacquaio, who will be the next fighter of the decade?

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  1. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    golovkin. middleweight winning streak within reach.. record ko% (just over hagler?) but who knows what can happen within the next three years.

    and, no, jones did not clown hopkins, scarecrow.
     
  2. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Gonzalez was a Featherweight or bigger he would probably be a solid frontrunner.
     
  3. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopkins did nothing. And Jones schooled his ass with 1 hand. Hopkins did his usual wheb matched with a great fighter which is have zero offense and spoil.
     
  4. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    No, but Calzaghe suffered how GGG is suffering, the biggest names avoided him and it hurt his legacy. He would have beaten everybody I have no doubt but as Pacquaio was awarded the title I have to accept that and I can understand why they did over Joe, simply because Joe couldn't get people to fight him.
     
  5. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquiao was lucky to have fought in an era with great Mexican warriors not afraid to fight him.
     
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  6. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Can't be Ward.... he literally has done nothing in 4 years and even before that I don't class Dawson as a credible win.
    Prior to that his resume looked good on paper but he hasn't capitalised on it.

    I agree with the rest, but replace Ward with GGG, I still think GGG will get Canelo at some point and unless he ages overnight he will KO Canelo, when he does that his star power will go crazy and we will have a super star in boxing again.
     
  7. scarecrow

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    Around 75 seems about right for Marquez on the ATG lists. Barrera and Morales fit in around the 50 mark.

    I rate Gonzalez, but he's so small and people lose track of those little guys. He's a great fighter already though.
     
  8. slash

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    1 armed my ass. jones did his flake out against hopkins when he couldn't hurt him. jones was lucky to get the win.
     
  9. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LMFAO
     
  10. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    What title? The toy shop one that had as much legitimacy as Zelenoff's UBF title?

    Unlike Pacquiao, Calzaghe didnt weightdrain anyone, run away from them until he thought they were shot, nor take more PEDs than Lance Armstrong

    Either youre puting faith in the Zelenoff toy shop trinket or you DO believe Pacquiao was superior to Calzaghe
     
  11. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Ive had some exchanges with Maerkat and i think youll find he isnt the sharpest tool in the shed. Might have to cut him a little slack. He doesn have great catch phrases though. My favorite is and i quote:

    "Boxing is the only sport where people talk and not play
     
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  12. RingKing75

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    If Chocolatito remains undefeated and can beat some elite guys on the way hes the clear favorite in my book. Guy is incredible. Hi-tec Loma could also be a consideration.
     
  13. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    You're trying to pit me against Calzaghe when everyone knows I see him as unbeatable, in terms of what they did in that period, through no fault of Joes, Pacquaio did more because people thought they could beat him and everyone knew Joe would overwhelm them.

    Pacquaio won titles at 8 divisions, jumped 2 weights to kill ODLH, people think only about ODLH losing a few lbs, what about Pac's weight jump?
    he beat Marquez 3 times ( yes 3 one judge scored a KD round 10-9 to Pac when it was a 10-8 round giving him the win) and he deservedly beat him no matter how Marqueers sugar coat it.
    He beat Morales, Barrera too, these are ATG not just HoF.
    The list goes on and on, and he beat people in remarkable fashion doing things no-one has done in boxing.

    Pacquaio based on achievements and his ability is the fighter of his generation. Calzaghe is the unsung fighter of the generation because no-one would fight him to show what he could do, until he got his hands on a prime Hopkins that is.
     
  14. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Come on man, you put Green in there? AA? Barrera?
    Bika it's disputable he won, a draw was a better result but it was in Oakland.
    Yes he beat Froch, Froch pulled off some great wins, but he looked a lot worse than JT did for 11 rounds who was doing great again Froch. Dirrel was a harder fight for Froch too, if anything that exposed Ward a little.
    Kessler, again dubious circumstances but I will give him that, Green was an absolute joke and a statue to be hit. AA was already on a losing streak and a blown up MW.

    Nothing Ward has done stands him out, and GGG may not have the names, but the fashion in which he wins puts him much higher than Ward, Kell Brook even though he went up was a great win, Brook is no joke as he will prove in the 154 division, Lemiux too.

    If Ward beats Kovalev then yes it would be a great win, unless its a stinker and controversial, if he goes to HW he will get obliterated, Hughie Fury would spark him out right away.
     
  15. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Im not trying to pit you against Calzaghe, i agree with you. He was vastly superior to Manny in that he never needed to cheat, cripple opponents at the negotiation table, nor bribe judges to win