After Pacquaio, who will be the next fighter of the decade?

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  1. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Honest question. Are you a professional comedian?
     
  2. southpaw123

    southpaw123 Active Member Full Member

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    Honestly you're looking at this in a way too black a white fashion. Pound for pound, yes they're tougher fights for most, but unfortunately for your arguement weight classes are a thing in boxing. Ko ing cotto is probably the most impressive win for pacquiao, not to mention the fashion in which he did it. Beating a bigger and skilled cotto took way more talent than beating morales.
     
  3. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can see you're point about Cotto being bigger and arguably Pacquiaos most impressive performance.

    Its undisputed that Pac's two best performances are Barrera I and Cotto.
     
  4. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Since a lot of people believe that JMM won several of the Pac encounters, why don't you show a slow motion video of the very close fights between them. You know, like you did with Pac, Mayweather. Blow by blow, minute by minute, counting every shot! Again, you are predictable and you will not do this! Why! Because the proof might in fact show that Pac did lose one or more of the 3 previous fights before JMM put Pac to sleep!
     
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  5. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    I get it! I just like calling out the hypocrisy of these haters! You can use the straight forward approach and call them racist but, I like to make them try to argue a point were they know they are caught in a hypocritical situation. You'll notice this fool will not respond to my post! Most, if not all, guys like him will cower in the light of truth when that truth is their own double standard!
     
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  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    No he's a professional steroid user with baby nuts who's not playing with a full deck who knows nothing about boxing.
     
  7. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The reason I asked is because I find him extremely humorous. He posted a video of himself jumping rope and it was hilarious. He was so uncoordinated that he was about to hang himself with the jump rope. I think he comes on here just for yucks and giggles.
     
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  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    :risas3::risas3::risas3:
     
  9. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Pac was never FOTD though, so the entire thread you constantly keep bumping to get more replies is irrelevant

    Roider of the Decade? For sure

    Oh and the 4 clear loses to JMM - twice when JMM was shot to pieces and Manny was prime - doesnt bode to well for him either

    No doubt you see it as 4 wins to Manny thought as JMM clearly knocked him out after the bell
     
  10. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    I actually mentioned enough on Floyd in my post for you to answer, instead you ignored and suggested you won't click on a link where i substantiated those accusations.

    Of course Floyd looked good against people who weren't that good ( like Pavlik as you mentioned) who were going through life crisis, who had to boil down, who were past prime etc at 130, but is he a great offensive fighter? not at all, that's why he couldn't hang with Maidana, ODLH, Mosely and Judah even and a very shot, 1 armed Pacquaio there is no need to go beyond this because as an offensive fighter he isn't great at all.
    A a defensive fighter he is great, not Pernel Whittaker great but more David Copperfield great, he creates an illusion, this was illustrated with Pacquaio beating him to the punch most of the fight, and how he ducked under the belt illegally multiple times, pawed away with a punch while refusing to fight and essentially running, hugging at every chance even when he gets tagged, these are great things because they have worked for him, I do feel if he were the same nationality as someone like GGG he would have half a dozen loses on his career by now, but he has exploited everything that has worked for him and gained him a fan base by doing it.

    The fact you can only say Lacy and can't acknowledge the job he did on a great Chris Eubank pretty much sets out your agenda, not to mention Reid, Woodhall and other world champions. We think it's bad GGG is being ducked by Canelo and Ward, Calzaghe went years of these things happening but this tends to be a problem with European fighters, the Americans get so hyped up, avoid the top contenders while they can and make a lot of money fighting each other while people like Calzaghe are left in the wilderness trying to force someones hand.

    Sorry the list you included doesn't suit a media agenda, The Klits created it themselves and never had the recognition and support, Hatton had British support but everyone knew he was limited and garbage, infact no one has been so praised, published and protected as Mayweather in history, not to the point where he misses and people land flush on him and the opposite gets praised.

    This is basically a tool called ''pacification'' aimed at the slave class, they create a hero figure, someone they can relate to, someone who started off with things they can feel empathy for, they see him work hard, over come the odds, get jilted along the way ( olympics) and then rally behind him after that, the media gauges how the slave class reacts it helps that to use trauma based occupation to expand their enterprise and pacify the inner anger of the slave class, the masters play this card very well, especially by picking a black male in America for people of that ethnicity to point to as a shining light while identifying with all his flaws and justifying them because he is great at his trauma based occupation. The fans lap it up, as aside from taking their minds off the 9-5 routine ''work'' they have something to distract and placate them with the controversy and anger directed to those who see through the handlers manipulation. Floyd is a multi-facted tool created and managed superby to both create unity and division but keep the system in place and use as a blue print in the future. You need to flood the slave camp with sedatives, entertainment based distraction, mindless consumerism and petty quarrels when the slaves aren't working to keep them working and the product Floyd has done just this.
     
  11. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Before Pac was mooted as a fighter for Floyd there was no real disagreement that Pacquaio won all 3, all stats show he bullied him, landed more, landed heavier shots, the only real issue was in the 4th fight where it was pretty much the same as always, Pacquaio was beating the hell out of him but Herida who worked with Mayweather after and was a known steroid user helped the fresh pimpled altered Marquez to get '' power'' at 40 years old.
     
  12. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Getting in bed with Gimp C is one way to destroy credibility on here, but this is another.
    People tend to forget in my time everything I have posted and proven, from my Aston Martins at my country estate, to my Bogan hunting in Australia, my car park brawl with pro boxer Dale Berry to my championship win at the Natural bodybuilding contests straight through to various modelling gigs.

    I accepted and I am not as vested in this as others are, Gimp C is a great example of a true forum user and I do come here sporadically but make no mistake, when I speak, people listen, they may not like it, they sometimes disagree but then they accept and lurk while watching much like that weird Dr guy that stalked me recently and then vanished.
     
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  13. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    I am pretty sure I said 3 big names not just Canelo.

    I actually think Pacquaio even at this age would wipe the floor with Canelo, he is a new pacification tool, probably due to the ''Trump'' effect, but he has no charisma or personality so I don't expect to see this branch out long term, they did well to keep him relevant before the elections though.

    GGG would destroy him in 2 to 3 rounds, people will be dazzled as they been fed a lie about Canelo, but should this happen Ward would have to go back to 168 and GGG will probably move up, Ward would have no option but to face GGG at 168 once GGG smashed Canelo.
     
  14. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol By the way, what is a "Bogan"? The internet definition is an unsavory person and I know you haven't hunted people.
     
  15. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    As you are relatively new to boxing, I should explain things.

    Fighters age based on their style and type of fights, not age.
    Mayweather has entered his prime mostly due to his enhanced PED use ( this cannot be disputed anymore) he is a bit like Hopkins, as he was never a great offensive fighter and hasn't KO'ed anyone properly since he dragged a fat Hatton up 7lbs, he is prime condition. His hands are fine as seen in many videos of him texting rapidly with full use of his fingers, as seen that even though he is retired he is punching women and bags. The hand thing was an excuse to gain access to an illegal pain killer which numbs the effect of punches, hence why he survived Mosely.

    Pacquaio who had been in many wars, had suffered a horrific KO which did change how he fights and also slowed him down ( yes i know he was faster than Mayweather but he was still slower than he was) Pacquaio has aged, he also had surgery on his shoulder right away because where Mayweather was getting IV drips to mask the PED use in his bedroom, Manny was denied a legal pain killer.

    The reason why Pacquaio was always greater isn't so much the prime vs prime Pac/May, but the fact this complete shadow of himself Pacquaio actually outboxed mayweather, changed Mayweathers fight plan to walk him down and Ko him and did a great job on him.

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    Any neutral country in the world without 3 American judges and an American ref would have had Pacquaio 116-114, 2009 Pacquaio stops any version of him.
     
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