After Re-Watching Film, I Still Think Pac Will Beat Floyd Mayweather

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Fighting JMM would be a horrible idea at this point.
     
  2. good

    good 'bad' Full Member

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    pac wont get tierd..he will punch non stop all nite if he has to..he is fast to get and get out of range fireing fast hard punches all nite long.,
     
  3. good

    good 'bad' Full Member

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    umm no,,pac will land early and often.,
     
  4. KERRIGAN

    KERRIGAN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Watching Floyd dismantle Shane makes me realise that Pac has no chance of beating Floyd.

    I even think Floyd would make sure he secured the KO to rub it in the faces of those who say Pac is better than him.
     
  5. gyll

    gyll Undetectable Full Member

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    Ok. But you still haven't given me a good explanation as to how Floyd looked better against Oscar. Did he have less wrinkles on his face? Is that it?:huh

    And just what are some of the physical "changes" that you have seen? I'd sure like to know because unless someone is being obnoxious, I honestly don't see a decline in a fighter when in the last 24 rds he's fought in, he's only lost 2. He looked fresh as a daisy in all 12 rds against Mosley. As I alluded to earlier, perhaps the fact that we didn't see more footwork is because he decided to press the action and not "run" like he's been criticized for. People push him to get into exchanges yet when he finally delivers all of a sudden he's "lost a step" for not showing more movement. Funny. Funny indeed.

    I don't know if he's necessarily "better" after his performance this past Saturday. But he definitely hasn't slowed down by my estimation. The logic you presented can also apply to Pac. How do we know he's better when he's taken on nothing but guys who were tailored made for him in his last 5 fights? The last time he faced a technical boxer was against JMM and he arguably lost.

    We have seen Floyd against guys with a high workrate. See respective fights against N'dou and Jesus Chavez. Both guys pressed the action and tested Floyd's durability. Chavez was actually very competitive until he quit on his stool from eating too many punches. There's a price you pay when you attack with sheer aggression. Throwing a ton of punches helps but doesn't make you invincible. Paul Williams learned the hard way when Sergio sent him to kiss the canvas.

    Floyd uses the clinch when he needs to. What happens when he ties up Pac when he gets close? He has the speed to catch Pac. I imagine it would look somewhat like Mosley-Margarito in terms of using the clinch effectively.

    Pac fans have to be concerned because Floyd can do everything that JMM can but with more size and speed. He also has a better defense. Beating guys with little or no footwork doesn't give me a good measurement of how Pac would fare against Floyd.
     
  6. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    We saw some movement in the Marquez fight. I don't think he has the same foot-speed as did a few years back. Maybe Floyd is on his game with his skills; maybe mentally he's at his best. It's natural to slow down just a little bit when getting older and when moving up in weight class. Pac isn't the same speed he was back in 2006 either. Lastly, I think has hand-speed is just a hair slower. Nothing to really emphasis or put concern over. Just a simple little observation.

    If the fight comes to fruition, what's your prediction?
     
  7. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here's the thing, Floyd has seen a southpaw with excellent speed in judah.....Pacquiao has seen a great counter-puncher in marquez, and he struggled at times....Has pacquiao seen the speed of a mayweather type fighter? I don't think so......

    Counter-punching+speed= Mayweather win over Pacquiao.....Pacquiao is going to have to eat leather, and keep his activity rate up the full 12......I don't think he can do it....If he trys and box the superior boxer he will lose a wide UD.....I think he will do the former, and try to slug it out, eating tons of shots, with roach pulling him out, he has tendency to pull a McGirt at times, because of his condition
     
  8. davebenoit

    davebenoit Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How long have you been saying this? Trust Pac and Roach to do the job. :yep
     
  9. gyll

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    If the fight materializes I see Floyd outboxing Pac in the early rounds. Then Floyd is going to get arrogant and decide to trade with Pac which will result in a knockdown somewhere in the 8th or 9th rd. With Floyd's excellent physique and decent chin it'll be enough to help him survive. I see him doing just enough by living off his jabs and lateral movement to earn a hard fought decision win.

    This is under the assumption the blood tests does not have a profound effect on Pac's mental fortitude. If he allows himself to become "weakened" by them, Floyd stops him by TKO or Freddy throws in the towel. And Buboy faints.
     
  10. shelterr

    shelterr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This!
     
  11. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    What excuses would there be if Pac beats Floyd? Let's see your list. Or does it work only one way for *****s?
     
  12. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Floyd can control Pac simply by his spacing..naturally Pac wants to force action so he will come...here is the problem..Floyd has a significant reach advantage....meaning Pac will have to lunge in from a dangerous position more often than not being off balance and Floyd has excellent reaction time...Pac's workrate will not be a factor..he will get frustrated because Floyd will make him ovr extend more often than not and he will pay dearly....Pac is an EXCEPTIONAL figher but FLoyd is BETTER and is bigger...plus very crafty an smart....Floyd UD or TKO.
     
  13. slantone

    slantone Ring General Full Member

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    I think basically you need someone who dosent think- who acts, someone who dosent have emotional problems- who dosent give a **** when theyre in there.

    bascially you cant have any weakness against floyd- cos he ll exploit you.
    you cant out box or out think him cos he s the best boxer and the smartest in the ring.

    you need someone who is instinctive, reflexive, natural, spontaneous, wild, unpredictable, someone who is tireless and relentless.

    sound like anybody??
     
  14. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    Valuev? :huh
     
  15. Joser

    Joser Active Member Full Member

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    One thing I'm worried about is When Cotto was fending off Pacquiao fighting on his backfoot, Cotto was successful. I think Mayweather can do the same, but better.