After Re-Watching Film, I Still Think Pac Will Beat Floyd Mayweather

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by PetethePrince, May 2, 2010.


  1. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac will ko Mayweather. It is mental. Pac will attack and engage and not be intimidated or give up. Mayweather is goin down in any Pac fight. Just remember I said it. I will not post for one year if im wrong. Im that confident about it. People fight Mayweather wrong. To Mayweather's credit and their discredit. Attack him constantly disrupt his rhythm he is not superman. Noone is. He will lose to Pac.
     
  2. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    One other thing. Mayweather is used to having things his way. that is one of his weaknesses. He is also afraid of Pac.
     
  3. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    One last thing. He is also a *****.
     
  4. slick willie

    slick willie pacweather p4p kings Full Member

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    Excellent.

    Remember people, Pac is essentially the product of Freddie Roach. Pac is only good as the gameplan Roach devises against Floyd.

    Roach has 4 options in my opinion.
    1. Box with Floyd: Pac exhibited some technical skills against De La Hoya (I will be very, very surprised if Pac can outbox Floyd)
    2. Attack Floyd furiously with power punches and output: I think this is the best plan. However, Pac will need to work on throwing sharp, crisp punches rather than wide, out-of-balance punches.
    3. Let Floyd be the aggressor, play the waiting game, and counter Floyd: High unlikely because this isn't Pac's style and I've never seen him effectively do this.
    4. Set traps and capitalize on Floyd's habits: very risky for Pac and may take more than 8 weeks of training to perfect this gameplan against someone like Floyd.

    Options 1,3,4 are very risky because there's a high probability that Pac may get drawn into Floyd's 'thinking man's game.'

    An ideal way for Pac to win is for him to outbox Floyd, which be more meaningful for me in terms of how impressed I'll be than if Pac were to knockout Floyd with a lucky punch that happened to land during a flurry of exchanges. Outboxing Floyd? High unlikely.

    If Pac wins the election, then he might as well not even bother fighting Floyd because he'll need atleast 5 weeks of strategy development with Roach in addition to 8 weeks of normal physical training.

    It's really ironic that Pac's win over Cotto and Clottey give me more reason to think that he's not ready to fight Floyd. Regardless if Pac was trying to feel Cotto's power or have Clottey open up, I wanted to see how Pac would do in terms of his development as a tactician, which unfortunately Pac did not exhibit.
     
  5. slantone

    slantone Ring General Full Member

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    bingo!

    seriously though- if i had to make a boxer to beat floyd, id go ideally with Hearns. but i think Pac has the tools to do it also.

    thats why its the fight to be made- i could debate it in my head - and i do- sometimes back and forth - for hours.

    i can see either guy dominating the other, i can see either knocking out the other, i can see either squeeking by the other, andi can see a draw. i can see a trilogy of fights. i ve played these two fighting out in my head ever since manny beat ricky- thats when i thought manny had finally come of age and was mature enough of a fighter to take on Floyd.

    but anyway- im sick of playing it in my head- debating will go on forever- and it wont mean jack ****. as we saw last nite- people reasoned and reasoned until it made sense for shane to win. nazim this, power that, size this, never been in with welter that. but all that **** went out the door once they stepped on the apron. it all came down to simply- who is better. and we all knew floyd was better.
     
  6. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nope, he has unfinished business with him.

    Aside from Floyd, a clear JMM win will really push Pac's legacy in many boxing fan's books.
     
  7. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You better hope marquez looks good in his next fight then.
     
  8. Bonavena25

    Bonavena25 Vamos! Full Member

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    I think it's a close fight too. Both are excellent fighters, unbelievably good even. If this fight happens, we should just all rejoice and look forward to an incredible clash.

    Pacquiao will be alot harder to tame than Mosley. Mosley isn't in Pacquiao's class.
     
  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I got Mayweather via knockout.
     
  10. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

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    pac has a chance but you have to favor mayweather. even when clottey, rarely threw punches, he was able to land CLEAN shots on pacquiao. mayweather is a superior counter puncher and a superior fighter period. and pac has never even been in the ring with a great defensive fighter.
     
  11. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    No it won't.

    But you had Pac before this recent fight. Don't lie.

    Sounds realistic. Funny ending there. :lol:
     
  12. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Pac was so open with Clottey because he wanted Clottey to engage. He was that almost unfocused because of Clottey's constant, and frustrating shelling up. I don't think that has much bearing on how an alert Pac would perform.
     
  13. daredevil1989

    daredevil1989 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    look for mayweather to smother pacquiao and wage war on the inside. Thats how id fight him smother his work force him backwards.
     
  14. Swarmer

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    I thought so too. He was completely offense oriented that time around. I was actually disappointed in him not only for taking those shots, but for exhibiting mediocre infighting against that guard.
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I couldn't agree more. This guy has gotten by with fighting guys with slow hands and feet with poor defense. PBF is the complete opposite of the guys he's used to seeing. And just like the point Steward made during the PBF-Mosley fight. When you're finally in the ring with someone who's as fast as you for the first time a lot of the times you can't handle it and I feel Pac won't be able to handle it either.