After re-watching Hopkins-Calzaghe...

Ward would dominate Calzaghe

 

You need to watch the Calzaghe deception on youtube.

 

Wow, you watched that fight again? Most fans I know try and forget that they've seen it in the first place.

 

You think Hopkins landed many clean punches on Calzaghe? gtfo you delusional slag

 

Nope Calzaghe won this fight. Him, Dawson and Jones Jr (1st fight) are the only people who have ever beaten Hopkins in my opinion. Didn't see his 1st fight so can't comment.

 

Those crappy videos which don't accept any comments which disagree with his p.o.v?

Same **** also has Mayweather-Castillo and Pacquiao-Marquez II "deception" videos.

 

Well I don't know the guy personally, but if it causes people to look at some of these "clear victories" more closely then I'm all for it.

At the very least, it seems that the definition of clean effective punching varies a lot from fan to fan.

 

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. I understand that Hopkins is an American legend that people want to see as an iconic figure. America love a reformist and Hopkins as a former armed robber turned world champ is just the story that wins Americas hearts but...

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1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
5. A Byrd who scored for Hopkins it appears has a history for bad scorecards. Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111.
8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.




Now I know there will be a flood of people coming on here noting Hopkins scoring a flash KD in the first round, and I agree that Hopkins did win a few rounds even when he didnt land as often, but people are mad if they think Calzaghe won on workrate, Calzaghe won because he was able to land his left more often than Hopkins could land his right.
Calzaghe finished the stronger and took away the moments Hopkins likes down the stretch.
Other thoughts, If Hopkins thought he was winning, do you think he would have been looking for time out and would bother trying to get points deducted off of Calzaghe, of course he wouldnt, Hopkins knew he was losing.

Calzaghe landed far more cleaner shots than Hopkins and for all these clean shots Hopkins was supposed to have landed, tell me other than the knockdown shot that wasnt that hard but caught Calzaghe square on and a solid punch in round 7 after an illegal headbutt, what were all of these other Hopkins punches. Calzaghe landed far more clean shots than Hopkins and the punch stats tell the whole story

 

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Calzaghe beat Hopkins by a point.

A draw or close win for Hopkins is also acceptable for me.

History is done, it can't be re-written and the fight was close enough that nobody has any right to call it a robbery. That should be enough for you guys.

 

Hopkins landed the vast majority of clean punches in the fight, while having a lower work rate.

 

You must be blind . If BHOP didn't pulled his coward move he would have been stoped for the very first time due to exhaustion. Calzaghe was wearing him out.