After reviewing the pavlik/miranda fight again.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by teetop, Aug 19, 2007.


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  1. teetop

    teetop Active Member Full Member

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    I'd have to say if jermaine is finished at 160 and loses to kelly, then
    arthur abraham might be the best middleweight in the world. Ive spent the last half hour viewing and studying AA's fights, and while he employs a constant peekaboo defense he is explosive and quick on
    the return attack. This is where he will be effective against kelly. Pavlik
    is much slower and predictable than AA. Abraham punches nearly as hard if not as hard as pavlik, but with better angles and surprise. Pavlik
    would be able to stand up to AA's punches, but may be outpunched in
    the powerpunching stats. And if the fight is in the U.S. you know the judges will like the more effective aggression of AA. Pavlik still has to
    become the undisputed middleweight champ on the 29th which I'm thinking he'll do(not a lock for sure), but if his first defense is against
    AA, my feeling is that he will be the shortest reigning middleweight
    champion of all time. And this opinion is coming from an american.
     
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  2. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I respectfully disagree. I think Pavlik's size, workrate, and own power would be too much for Arthur Abraham to overcome. Pavlik UD or late TKO
     
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  3. nezy37

    nezy37 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Taylor aint loosing to Pavlic
     
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  4. teetop

    teetop Active Member Full Member

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    Your opinion is welcome brooklyn as ou are always objective and knowledgeable. But, go to youtube and watch miranda/pavlik and then
    AA/demers like I did and look at the quickness and powerful salvos that
    AA throws, and observe the predictable slow shots pavlik throws. Yes, I
    thought about the workrate of pavlik versus the particular spurts by AA. But the main factor in scoring a fight is EFFECTIVE agggression. I'm afraid pavlik might be landing alot of his workrate on AA's gloves. My
    prediction is still AA UD.
     
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  5. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And what makes you so sure?
     
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  6. teetop

    teetop Active Member Full Member

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    Uh oh jetski, he's talkin' bout your boy. Polish hammer time.
     
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  7. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  8. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    It's tough to argue with your analysis - you bring up good points

    If Pavlik beats Taylor (Which I think he will), Pavlik/Abraham could be in the cards for early 2008 on HBO - in which we will find out for sure who the best middleweight is:good
     
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  9. doublesuited

    doublesuited Taylor TKO2 Pavlik Full Member

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    Pavlik sucks. He's a bum.
     
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  10. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This fight coming up for Kelly can be the stepping stone to many great things!

    :good
     
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  11. nezy37

    nezy37 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not like I think Pavlik isn't a good fighter I just think that stylewise he is good for Taylor. By the way I am far from 100% confident but I'm calling Taylor by UD now.
     
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  12. doublesuited

    doublesuited Taylor TKO2 Pavlik Full Member

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    Pavlik's lucky that Pantera was so weight drained or else he would've been another casualty of Miranda.
     
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  13. nezy37

    nezy37 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No I think Pavlik proved he has one hell of a chin
     
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  14. El Bombasto

    El Bombasto Ask yo momma Full Member

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    'weight drained', yeah that's it:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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  15. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    I agree with this. :good
     
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